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To: LouAvul

Pardon, I’m not trying to be a wise-ass, but what is the difference between a pistol brace and a collapsible stock? A braced pistol could be considered a short barreled rifle.


6 posted on 09/05/2022 6:10:13 AM PDT by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

๐˜—๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ, ๐˜โ€™๐˜ฎ ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ต๐˜ณ๐˜บ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข ๐˜ธ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ฆ-๐˜ข๐˜ด๐˜ด, ๐˜ฃ๐˜ถ๐˜ต ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ง๐˜ง๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ค๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜ธ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ข ๐˜ฑ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ฐ๐˜ญ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ค๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ข ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜ข๐˜ฑ๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ฃ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ฐ๐˜ค๐˜ฌ? ๐˜ˆ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ค๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฑ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ฐ๐˜ญ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ญ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ข ๐˜ด๐˜ฉ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ต ๐˜ฃ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ง๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ.

Pistol braces are designed for one handed shooting, and will look kind like a stock, but are either flat, or kind of clip or wishbone shaped to go around the forarm. Many of them appear to be more like stocks though.


7 posted on 09/05/2022 6:17:01 AM PDT by Antihero101607
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

If I’m not mistaken there’s also been back and forth on the interwebs regarding the legality of shouldering a pistol brace equipped gun.

Anyone who purchased one of these things who already owned (in this case an AR pistol, but there are other pistols out there that use braces) a pistol could simply remove it and restore the pistol to it’s factory configuration, I don’t see how the ATF can do much about that unless we’re going full bumpstock here. For those guns that came with them installed I don’t know how it’s going to be handled. I would be shrieking about amending the Code of Federal Regulations and creating law without legislation, but that ship sailed in March of 2019, probably a lot earlier than that.


11 posted on 09/05/2022 6:23:29 AM PDT by Antihero101607
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

To me, the “brace” term and the very slight differences between its construction and functionality with a true stock is in “how” it is used (or can be used) area. What does that mean? Well, if you readily can use the ‘brace’ which may or not be extendable/adjustable as a SHOULDER BRACED part of the gun, then it’s just a short-barreled weapon.

Most of the ‘brace’ designs have that curve in the widest part of them that is ostensibly meant for the user to ‘brace’ the pistol against the user’s forearm. Some even have strap looking options where I guess the operator could slip his and and forearm through to use it as a truly braced pistol.

In the end, my opinion is the manufacturers clearly designed them so that they can be used as a stock YET! due to definitions that were existing with ATF communications allowed barrels that were much shorter than the minimum 16”/26” (barrel/OAL) 1934 NFA definition.

I know I’ll get flamed over this, but the only thing I can say is that I think the 1934 NFA needs to be repealed in its entirety and that the ATF is a lawless organization operating on BS interpretations, intimidation and un-Constitutional gatekeepers of rights to which they have no right in deciding.


18 posted on 09/05/2022 6:48:35 AM PDT by Gaffer (Infidel, and proud of it!)
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

The brace was always a work around to make a short barreled rifle legally a pistol. Thatโ€™s all. No other practical reason for a brace. They arenโ€™t better than a collapsible stock.


19 posted on 09/05/2022 6:55:58 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

More laws, more crime, more govt employees to enforce said crimes.


51 posted on 09/07/2022 9:30:46 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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