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Why the left shouldn't be crowing so loudly about that Sarah Palin defeat: Leftists may not be cheering in November
American Thinker ^ | 09/01/2022 | Monica Showalter

Posted on 09/01/2022 7:25:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: KierkegaardMAN

‘Can God bless an America hell bent on the slaughter of innocents?’

why not? clearly He cares nothing about the issue either...


41 posted on 09/01/2022 8:47:10 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: tbewin

‘It’s a losing issue!’

I did not say otherwise...

‘Lastly, states are legalizing it left and right...’

agreed; and it is equally clear that putting it front and center is a loser in elective politics...which does nothing to change my view of its ethical implications, which was my only point...


42 posted on 09/01/2022 8:55:09 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: tbewin

You are out of touch with reality in OH so many ways.

Life is to be protected - that is why we have a government.

YOUR Biblical interpretation is just that; your religious belief


43 posted on 09/01/2022 9:00:00 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives )
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To: aumrl

Nonsense! I’m in touch with reality as society sees it. If libs want to abort their babies then good riddance as far as I’m concerned. I am concerned about one thing and one thing only...our side gaining power to stave off a one world government. Legalized abortion does not affect that in any way. And abortion will remain legal...just through the states and helping get a few more dems elected in the process! Thanks a lot!


44 posted on 09/01/2022 9:06:01 AM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: aumrl

And I’m not the one using the bible to assert my worldview. I am a practical conservative!


45 posted on 09/01/2022 9:08:19 AM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: aumrl

‘Life is to be protected - that is why we have a government.’

what in the world gives you the notion that governments have an obligation to protect life...? if the voters wish to be killers, a government will accomodate them...


46 posted on 09/01/2022 9:08:33 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: tbewin
It is impossible to "take religion out of politics" because everyone has a foundational religious worldview that governs how they think. Some people are just blind to their own religious commitments and faith, but that doesn't mean it doesn't govern their choices. This is made easier (that is, they are blind to their own blind faith) when the media and schools share their faith assumptions.

That's why dissidents like me characterize our time in the government schools as time spent in a religious cult, and find the culture around us overwhelmingly religious - just not in the way you think. I have to face down blind faith, unreasoning dogmas and zealotry every day in America from self-styled "irreligious" people who might as well be jihadists for all it matters.

47 posted on 09/01/2022 9:17:22 AM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe this will shake up enough wishy washy Alaska Republicans to make a change in November.

You might not like Palin but do you really want a democrat as your representative in Washington ???


48 posted on 09/01/2022 9:22:03 AM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: EnderWiggin1970

I catch what you’re saying; worship of the state is a religion. You are correct! We do have to identify fringe issues that stand in the way of our overall objective.


49 posted on 09/01/2022 9:24:57 AM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

Those in the “GOP” who’ve dominated Alaska over the years are pretty much all inbred members of what a much younger Palin then called, IIRC, “the corrupt bastards club.” Murky is the daughter of one of the more prominent ones. The Democrats play along as willing participants in the AK uniparty, as illustrated by Begich’s grandfather. Palin managed to break thru and win in spite of them, albeit not on her first attempt. They’ve been out to nail her since. Which her unconventional family life made easy. Murky’s write in win and having an independent win as governor were just earlier rounds of the CBC being unwilling to give up their power and money to real republicans. Ranked choice voting was put in to keep Murky in office, but using it to torpedo Palin was a plus to them. The alleged GOP to democratic first round vote totals were roughly 60:40 favoring candidates listed as GOP. But whereas you’d think the 2nd choices for lower ranked GOP entrants would be for some other GOP candidates, they weren’t all that. 20% of Begich 1st choice voters listed no one as second choice. So when he didn’t win outright their votes no longer count. A bigger chuck of Begich first voters actually listed the Democrat ahead of Palin for as their 2nd choice.


50 posted on 09/01/2022 9:41:50 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris press events are called dodo ops)
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To: XRdsRev

Exactly...too many on here saying those types of things. Palin all the way in November...despite her shortcomings.


51 posted on 09/01/2022 9:55:47 AM PDT by tbewin ( )
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52 posted on 09/01/2022 10:01:30 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Yo-Yo

“All he did was to split the Republican vote”

That was his purpose.


53 posted on 09/01/2022 10:28:25 AM PDT by falcon99 ( )
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To: IrishBrigade

I do so hope you are kidding.

But for starters I refer you to ‘The Declaration of Independence’


54 posted on 09/01/2022 10:36:15 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives )
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To: IrishBrigade
what in the world gives you the notion that governments have an obligation to protect life...? if the voters wish to be killers, a government will accomodate them...

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

I saw that written somewhere.

55 posted on 09/01/2022 10:39:41 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: IrishBrigade

Because He leaves us to our own devices isn’t synonymous with not caring.


56 posted on 09/01/2022 11:02:17 AM PDT by KierkegaardMAN (I never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.)
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To: tbewin

Uh no. Worship of the state is one sort of religion among many, and I did not in any way highlight that particular one. Even the ranking of importance of issues is a reflection of unprovable values drawn from fundamental beliefs. Where I see the right to life as being foundational to all other rights as a logical progression, for example, others seem uncomfortable with it as a core issue.


57 posted on 09/01/2022 12:05:53 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: EnderWiggin1970

Then your statement was too abstract. The issue is a swath of our supporters see religious issues such as abortion and gay marriage as important, but more and more people see those as justified rights that should not be taken away. How are conservatives supposed to adapt and win in that environment when we are strictly pro life and anti gay marriage? There are way more important issues such as not being George Soros slave!


58 posted on 09/01/2022 12:09:54 PM PDT by tbewin ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

Another stolen election


59 posted on 09/01/2022 3:54:37 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: IrishBrigade

Agreed to a point - but I was responding to the assertion that my “religious beliefs” should not affect my political ones, which is absurd.


60 posted on 09/01/2022 4:10:58 PM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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