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Why Do Some People in New Jersey Suddenly Have Bags and Bags of Bags?
New York Times via Yahoo ^ | September 1, 2022 | Clare Toeniskoetter

Posted on 09/01/2022 7:23:04 AM PDT by grundle

Nicole Kramaritsch of Roxbury, New Jersey, has 46 bags just sitting in her garage. Brian Otto has 101 of them, so many that he’s considering sewing them into blackout curtains for his baby’s bedroom. (So far, that idea has gone nowhere.) Lili Mannuzza in Whippany has 74.

“I don’t know what to do with all these bags,” she said.

The mountains of bags are an unintended consequence of New Jersey’s strict new bag ban in supermarkets. It went into effect in May and prohibits not only plastic bags but paper bags as well. The well-intentioned law seeks to cut down on waste and single-use plastics, but for many people who rely on grocery delivery and curbside pickup services their orders now come in heavy-duty reusable shopping bags — lots and lots of them, week after week.

While nearly a dozen states nationwide have implemented restrictions on single-use plastic bags, New Jersey is the only one to ban paper bags because of their environmental impact. The law also bans polystyrene foam food containers and cups, and restricts restaurants from handing out plastic straws unless they’re requested.

Compared to single-use plastics, the more durable reusable bags are better for the environment only if they are actually reused. According to Shelie Miller, a professor at the University of Michigan School for Environment and Sustainability, a typical reusable bag, manufactured from polypropylene, must be used at least 10 times to account for the additional energy and material required to make it. For cotton totes, that number is much higher.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bag; ban; chat; newjersey; shopping
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To: fella

And brown bags of paper can be sterilized in an oven, using low temp (250 degree) setting for thirty minutes.


41 posted on 09/01/2022 8:34:13 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: grundle
The ban on plastic bags has nothing to do with "green" or "good intentions". It's in areas that are financially broke and cannot afford to constantly clean out gutters and storm drains from plastic bags that ghetto crawlers litter with. The fact that New Jersey is legally forcing the spread of filth at the same time claiming there's a pandemic is everything you need to know about corrupt and bankrupt government.

"Reusable" shopping bags are disgusting, filthy and completely unsanitary. You have no idea where those bags have been and if the costumer cleaned them. The filth has been documented for more than a decade. From 2010:

https://news.arizona.edu/story/reusable-grocery-bags-contaminated-with-e-coli-other-bacteria

Customers put their filthy reusable bags right on the counter and I witness cashiers handle the customers' filthy bags in order to help bag the items.

42 posted on 09/01/2022 8:37:49 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: JayGalt

Make up a bucket of 10 to 1 water to bleach and dunk the cotton bags until thoroughly wet, wring them out, then set them out in the sun to dry. That is a sterilizing method for cotton ‘things’.


43 posted on 09/01/2022 8:38:45 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: grundle

We have to pay 5 cents a bag for paper.

I collect them, I use them as woodstove starters.


44 posted on 09/01/2022 8:52:28 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives. Leftists are genocidal. )
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To: MHGinTN

Why would I bother? What am I accomplishing? I don’t need the **** bags in the first place. We have a lunatic dictator in charge of NJ and I’m supposed to “sterilize” dozens of bags I have no use for & didn’t need in the first place because muh non existent global warming. How am I supposed to bend the knee next week?


45 posted on 09/01/2022 9:01:36 AM PDT by JayGalt (For evil men to accomplish their purpose it is only necessary that good men should do nothing.”)
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To: ConservativeInPA

But people in PA have it all on the ball? They have the dirty corrupt Government they deserve?
Stop attacking the people who live in a place. It’s a poor strategy & ignores the truths that underpin our lives. Corrupt elections greed & graft in Government pandering for votes happens everywhere and is a real uphill battle, one that PA is fighting a sometimes losing battle against just like NJ.


46 posted on 09/01/2022 9:05:12 AM PDT by JayGalt (For evil men to accomplish their purpose it is only necessary that good men should do nothing.”)
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To: uranium penguin

I reuse bags, I don’t sterilize them. I don’t sterilize my kitchen either, just keep it clean.

The stores still give disposable bags for produce, you can take them for meat.


47 posted on 09/01/2022 9:16:57 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: JayGalt

Will Goodwill or Habitat take the bags?


48 posted on 09/01/2022 9:19:45 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: grundle

I presently have 3 bags full of bags in my trunk and another two bags of bags in my kitchen. Thanks Murph.


49 posted on 09/01/2022 9:19:46 AM PDT by mware
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To: grundle

Another reason why people are leaving Joisey by the thousands!


50 posted on 09/01/2022 9:20:08 AM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: grundle

We have a ton since most of our shopping is curbside pickup or shop from home. I am going to sew a zeppelin out of mine LOL.


51 posted on 09/01/2022 9:24:28 AM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: grundle

While visiting mom, I forgot about ban when going food shopping for her. She had “reusable bags” at home. Afterwards, she had four more.

I’m old enough to remember women walking to and from the market pulling grocery carts behind them. I also remember reusable plastic or string mesh bags with handles they used. Those were a thing in Europe much longer, perhaps even now.


52 posted on 09/01/2022 9:25:37 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: fella

I use a ton of brown paper bags at harvest time. They breathe better than plastic, and they can stand up on their own.


53 posted on 09/01/2022 9:30:52 AM PDT by Ellendra (A single lie on our side does more damage than a thousand lies on their side.)
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To: heartwood

I refuse to assume the burden of disposing of those bags. There are literally millions of bags being generated because the Governor wanted to virtue signal. It’s his problem not mine. What would GW do with millions of bags. I have over 50 in just a few months. I don’t drive. We get groceries delivered. Now I am trying to cut down on groceries and make do because I resent the bag “thing”.


54 posted on 09/01/2022 9:32:21 AM PDT by JayGalt (For evil men to accomplish their purpose it is only necessary that good men should do nothing.”)
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To: fella

I knit my reuseable bags in to humorous cumberbunds for a local right wing extremist party.


55 posted on 09/01/2022 9:37:44 AM PDT by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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To: grundle

It’s so pathetic, so sickening, and so discouraging that our population is so dumbed down.
They think it’s great to devote millions of acres of farmland to growing food they can burn in their car. But the idea of raising trees which remove a lot of CO2 from the air by the way to make bags that are 100% biodegradable is repulsive to them
Thousands of tons of non-biodegradable petroleum based bags, which is what the non-woven polypropylene is, are going into landfills when they could be biodegradable paper. The greenies are not only destroying the economy they are destroying the environment


56 posted on 09/01/2022 9:40:01 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: Qiviut

When I’m asked paper or plastic? I say, it doesn’t matter, it’s all going to landfill anyway.


57 posted on 09/01/2022 9:40:42 AM PDT by lewislynn (Trump accomplished more in one term than any other President in your lifetime.)
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To: grundle

Wow, we did delivery shopping for a while and those large, heavy-duty bags were great for heavy-duty trash. Saved a lot of trash bags.

My favorite was many years ago when the thin bags became illegal was *transparent* heavy-duty plastic bags—i used them for knitting projects and the like.


58 posted on 09/01/2022 9:43:14 AM PDT by Chicory
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To: lewislynn

Where I shop, they don’t ask - you get plastic unless you speak up & request paper. I bring my own bags, but if I forget, I prefer paper - sturdier & don’t collapse/spill contents all over the car like plastic. Plus, I reuse the paper bags ... wrap stuff, use it as a liner & also in the garden under mulch to keep weeds down, etc. I generally carry a few along with my reusable bags in the event I need more bags.


59 posted on 09/01/2022 9:46:42 AM PDT by Qiviut (The unvaccinated, the chosen of the invisible ark .... (author unknown))
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To: JayGalt

I work for someone in a similar situation to yours with the bags piling up. I figure I’ll take them to Habitat in a while. The lawmakers did no think this through all the way. At one point they were talking about banning all plastic bags, and the newspapers had to lobby for an exception.


60 posted on 09/01/2022 10:04:15 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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