US justice department files redacted Trump search affidavit – live

The Guardian (UK) ^ | Aug 26 | Martin Pengelly & Chris Stein

[PIF]

At least 18 pages fully redacted

[Plumberman27]

Did they really steal boxes of evidence Trump was going to use in his lawsuits against hillary clinton for fraud?

[dljordan]

“Isn’t the accused constitutionally required to have access to face his accusers?”

You mean like with the Red Flag laws?

[piasa]

Wow, is it even legal for an affidavit to iinsinuate this stuff, presumption of innocence be damned?

[Dr. Franklin]

The affidavit shows no real serious issue, just legal warfare being conducted by Washington insiders. Make sure you read Exhibit 1, it shows exactly how ridiculous the whole raid was.

When there is "no real serious [legal] issue", there is no "probable cause" for a search warrant. They may yet charge President Trump with a crime in D.C., not because it is justified, but because the D.C. courts have been corrupted and politicized, and they can put him through the process for a long time before the appellate courts, and SCOTUS, will correct the "errors". They also will likely attempt to keep all of the documents seized under the theory that they are government property and Trump has no "right" to hold them. More litigation is certain.

[laconic]

I don’t need to read the heavily redacted affidavit. I know all about the FBI I need to after listening to a two minute response by Facebook’s Zuckerberg about his preelection “visit” by the FBI two weeks before the election.

[Shady]

This begs the question, the DOJ cannot afford to allow Trump’s Lawyers to have discovery. They simply cannot. This poses a wicked dilemma for the Deportment of Justice, how can they nail Trump without discovery.. They are meeting now to figure that one out.

[Reno89519]

Been streaming Fox news while working and couldn’t believe the long anti-Trump rant by Karl Rove. Fox just reveling in anti-Trump hysteria.

[Leep]

What is Trump’s crime?

[piasa]

Trump has already filed a suit based on the 4th amendment...

[blackdog]

All trying to get documents implicating the DOJ and FBI on the Russiagate hoax also code name assigned "Operation Crossfire Hurricane. They know Trump has them and the DOJ needs to scrub the trail. A bunch of Beltway criminals trying to control the evidence that makes them guilty of crimes. Call it top secret double dog dare classified in front of a judge to get your warrant, but it is what it is.

I also heard a reporter mention the affidavit references FISA court documents. Ring any bells there folks?

[Fightin Whitey]

Once he charged, and he will be

Karl Rove and the rest of the usual suspects are sweating and frothing and drooling over the prospect of Trump behind bars.

Fatso Baer has departed three times already for diaper changes.

[piasa]

I know. Our system is as corrupt as any tin pot dictatorship.

[Songcraft]

"Been streaming Fox news while working and couldn’t believe the long anti-Trump rant by Karl Rove. Fox just reveling in anti-Trump hysteria."

Karl Rove is the Lindsey Graham II of the whining-rinos, and, like Lindsey I, he is full of poop to the brim.

[Organic Panic]

Wanna bet it was “corrected” to include everything they found but didn’t have a warrant to seize?

[Reno89519]

Yes, but a shame that Fox is giving him such an extended platform to spew his BS.

[joshua c]

he is tried in public

they keep exculpatory evidence under wraps

and leak damaging evidence

[newnhdad]

Perfect metaphor for this pile of garbage this judge approved... My Cousin Vinny scene..

https://youtu.be/htvM8IkIGRs

[MayflowerMadam]

“some prick thought that last Jan there were classified documents in the boxes”

Boxes packed by someone not Trump. Can you just see him with boxes on the desk, packing them up? Throw in some books, files, family pics, and finally his potted plant, before walking out the door.

If there is a problem, which there isn’t, go after the lowly packing person.