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To: Cronos

You do realize that this is a fictional organization made up to distract from whom the real killers are and what Ukrainian organizations they worked for.

Don’t you? Or are you THAT gullible.


4 posted on 08/23/2022 4:49:27 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX!)
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To: House Atreides

The Russians that answer to Putin really want to nail this on somebody, and the Ukrainians are the nearest scapegoat.

It is equally as likely that the perps were Chechens. But Putin, in his hard-won acumen, has chosen not to stir up the Chechens with further accusations. The Chechens are meaner than fire ants.


5 posted on 08/23/2022 4:54:03 AM PDT by alloysteel (There are folks running the government who shouldn't be allowed to play with matches - Will Rogers)
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To: House Atreides

How do YOU know it’s a fictional organization?


9 posted on 08/23/2022 5:02:31 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: House Atreides
You do realize that this is a fictional organization made up to distract from whom the real killers are and what Ukrainian organizations they worked for.

Lets explore your hypothesis. There are anti-government activists in Russia, like the people who have set some recruiting offices on fire and the people arrested for opposing the war in Ukraine.

There have also been some instances of fires at facilities that support the war effort, train derailments, etc. And most recently the bombing which killed the daughter of a fairly well known member of the Russian elite.

One possibility is that those events were attacks from internal Russian dissidents or crime syndicates, or even by the FSB or other state related entities pro or anti-Putin.

Another possibility is that the Ukrainian clandestine services are extremely good, and have thoroughly infiltrated Russia to the extent that they can car bomb the daughter of a member of the Russian elite whenever they want to. According to the Russians the assassin lived in the same apartment building as the victim and even though supposedly the woman was an AZOV member the Russian security services let her in the country and had no idea what she was up to. If that is true there are hundreds like her already in Russia.

If there really are no Russians starting fires, derailing trains, and now killing the family members of elite Russians, then real fear should be spreading among the Russian elites. They would have to realize that the Ukrainian clandestine services can kill them, or their family members any time they go out shopping, or to a festival, or are at their desk in the research center.

It is probably in the best interests of the Russian government to simultaneously publicly blame the Ukrainians but internally blame nebulous and presumably weak Russian groups.

21 posted on 08/23/2022 5:51:37 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: House Atreides; All

If you go out and read their manifesto (it does exist on paper)...it reads like something that some CIA-contractor PhD-intellectual type would write.

I would offer the observation that some element of the CIA (maybe planned under CIA guidance, maybe on their own individual staging) created this group and is faking the existence. The manifesto reads like a combination of nationalism and socialism, and of course...that leads to one odd conclusion.

It’s not just the Russians and Ukrainians at war....elements of Europe, the CIA, the Chinese, and others...are playing around the corners of this situation.


23 posted on 08/23/2022 6:05:12 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: House Atreides

Not fictional.

Fictional are Putin’s excuses for the invasion of Ukraine. No biowarfare centres were found outside of Russian propaganda


30 posted on 08/23/2022 6:53:17 AM PDT by Cronos
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