Posted on 08/15/2022 3:42:29 PM PDT by nvskibum
America's tech giants are taking a modern-day crash course in India's ancient caste system, with Apple (AAPL.O) emerging as an early leader in policies to rid Silicon Valley of a rigid hierarchy that's segregated Indians for generations.
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…U.S. discrimination laws…do not explicitly ban casteism.
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…the first U.S. employment lawsuit [filed by California] about alleged casteism - has forced Big Tech to confront a millennia-old hierarchy where Indians' social position has been based on family lineage, from the top Brahmin "priestly" class to the Dalits, shunned as "untouchables" and consigned to menial labor.
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Since the suit was filed, several activist and employee groups have begun seeking updated U.S. discrimination legislation …
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Hopefully somebody will bring this to President Trump’s attention.
It involves discrimination against LEGAL immigrants from India who are subject to claimed discrimination in the US because of their social status determined at birth under the Indian “caste system.”
“Caste” is a ancient system that locks Indians into a social hierarchy from birth, from the highest to lowest. The lowest caste, the “untouchables”, are considered fit only for menial work.
The caste system obviously is abhorrent to MAGA. The “American Dream” is that anybody from any station if life has an equal opportunity to succeed based on merit and hard work.
There are claims that US discrimination laws are unclear whether discrimination based on “caste” is illegal. If that is true (I am not an expert, it should be confirmed), President Trump should immediately get out in front of this issue and lead the effort to fix this problem so that caste discrimination is illegal.
This has come up in the tech industry in California that employs hundreds of legal immigrant ethnic Indian engineers. Lower level Indian employees have claimed they have faced caste discrimination from their ethnic Indian bosses.
Clarifying our laws to make “casteism” illegal in the US is fully consistent with MAGA. This issue affects LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, and does not benefit illegals.
Many in the left accuse the MAGA movement of harboring anti-immigrant, racist, sexist and other “deplorable” social views, for lacking compassion towards minorities , etc.
We know this is a slander.
At this very time many minorities including Ethnic Asians that have backed liberals in the past are starting to figure out that liberals are not really on their side because they are not part of a more favored minority groups.
MAGA leadership to fix this type of hideous discrimination would be proof that the liberal smears against the “deplorable” MAGA movement are bunk.
India is a key geopolitical counterweight to China, and President Trump fully understands that. Attention to Indian issues and to the ethnic Indian constituency in the US is important to MAGA.
This issue firsts the bill.
DISCLOSURE: I am not ethnic Indian and have no connection with India or the tech industry other than ownership miscellaneous tech stocks as part of my investments.
Lower level Indian employees have claimed they have faced caste discrimination from their ethnic Indian bosses.
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I know a young man, capable computer scientist, who being white and US citizen, lost job due to being replaced by action of an Indian manager. Replaced by a (cheaper) indian.
We have a lot of Indians whose loyalty to their caste is like clan loyalty.
Given that marriage is supposed to stay within your caste, you COULD consider castes to be very big clans.
It does need to be addressed if we continue to bring Indians into our Country. I know of someone who is from a higher caste and that person has no problem disparaging other Indians who they see as beneath them. It's truly disgusting. This person even made disparaging remarks about their own family because a member here in America married beneath their caste. The remarks about the children were vile.
Yet another problem imported into the USA from the nefarious H1B Visa scam.
The latest genetic evidence implies that the upper Brahmin caste is descended from ancient invading central Asian and fertile crescent populations, while the lower castes are native to the Indian subcontinent.
So, it is essentially racial discrimination.
They say for ‘’better life''. They also say America is a ''racist country.''.Especially towards Indians. Hpyocrisy at it's worse. "Better life'' That one makes my head explode.
Where’s the system wallah?
We don’t need immigrants from India or anywhere. Immigration shutdown now. We have enough racial and ethnic problems without importing new ones.
I have sympathy with those who think that the legal immigration H1B visa program should be revisited to take into account effects on US citizens and current legal residents.
Is this person being replaced because of his Caucasian race as some kind of reverse discrimination? That should be illegal.
If his replacement is solely due to the lower salary, that is tougher. It needs to be part of the consideration of the numbers of H1B visas granted. This came up recently in Congress. I believe the high tech companies who want more cheap labor won.
A sad but true fact is that this pool of low cost educated Indian labor exists. If they don’t come here, they will go to jobs outside the US. This makes our tech companies less competitive unless they can compensate in some other way.
Hiring lower cost labor generally is not illegal.
It is tough to choose between protecting employees like your acquaintance and helping build stronger foreign tech competitors. I think it is in our national security interest to have the tech companies here.
But that is what is at stake.
My point is that once immigrants are here legally, they should be protected. That does not address how many should come here in the future, which is a completely different question. That is a subject of compromise. There will be some losers.
We let the semiconductor fabrication industry substantially leave the US for foreign locations that were more attractive to do business for cost, environmental and other reasons. I hope we don’t Make the same mistake again.
In India, they actually have affirmative action for the bottom castes. They have a lot of places reserved in the top universities.
Better for them, worse for us..
It would be much easier to just take the ones with the highest salaries, and then say they could change jobs after one year in the US.
That would call the tech giants bluff. They might find that US citizens are cheaper.
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And less qualified person
Now that you mention that, how is Prince Harry's company doing after he got the job because of his qualifications of being the 31xgreat-grandson of William the Conqueror?
Politicians will always pander to large companies due to their campaign donations and that the politician owns stock. It’s in their best interests to use cheaper labor. This is nothing more than selling out the American worker and is ultimately unsustainable. It is also ignores national security and the critical infrastructure we should require to be secured, the globalists don’t care - if it falls apart it probably won’t impact them.
“,,, know of someone who is from a higher caste and that person has no problem disparaging other Indians who they see as beneath them. It’s truly disgusting.”
I’m in California, and I’m acquainted with a fair number of immigrants from India. I can attest to the truth of your comment. It’s not imaginary. Many if not most of them have imported their “caste” crap into this country. People knock the English for their class-ism, but they’re pikers compared to the Indians I’ve met.
I’m selling my recently deceased mother’s home in south San Jose and ALL the prospective buyers have been Indians.
The husband, in western clothes, invariably blows in in the lead, followed by kids in order of age (apparently) followed at some distance by the wife, in traditional dress.
Unless granny and grand pappy are also there, also in traditional dress, in which case they precede the wife as well.
Call me a bigot (I really don’t care) but I have very mixed feelings about a culture so foreign to mine occupying the home I grew up in. It is the way it goes, I guess.
I feel for you. For your loss. I worked in the home building industry years ago and saw hoards of these mutts pouring in here.
Even if Trump is re- elected he can only hold back the tide for so long. If the border isn’t closed within the year, and that’s not going to happen, the nation as we knew it is over.
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