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With 87,000 New Agents on Way, 4 Facts About IRS Gun Arsenal
The Daily Signal ^ | August 12, 2022 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 08/13/2022 4:55:18 AM PDT by LibertyWoman

Some of the 87,000 new agents whom Democrats propose to hire at the Internal Revenue Service could come with some extra firepower.

On Friday, House Democrats gave final passage to the tax and spending bill they dubbed the Inflation Reduction Act, which, among other things, would double the size of the IRS with 87,000 new agents to beef up enforcement.

As of two years ago, the IRS had an arsenal of 4,600 guns, reported OpenTheBooks, a government watchdog group.

Two federal investigations in the past decade found that IRS agents had not been sufficiently trained and were accident-prone with the weapons they have. Armed IRS raids on nonviolent taxpayers surfaced as a concern almost 25 years ago during a Senate hearing.

The legislation, which unwinds from 2023 through 2031, would devote $80 billion to expanding the IRS and boosting tax revenue to pay for Democrats’ green energy subsidies and other pet projects.

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During the House floor debate Friday, Rep. Lauren Boebert, R-Colo., raised concerns about arming IRS agents.

“This bill has new IRS agents and they are armed, and the job description tells them that they need to be required to carry a firearm and expect to use deadly force if necessary,” Boebert said. “Excessive taxation is theft. You are using the power of the federal government for armed robbery on the taxpayers.”

Rep. John Yarmuth, D-Ky., suggested that no IRS agents are armed.

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After sparking some controversy amid the proposed expansion of the agency, the IRS deleted “willing to use deadly force” from the job description.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailysignal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; batfe; creepstate; deepstate; guncontrol; irs; policestate; singlepartystate; tyranny
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To: LibertyWoman
There should be absolutely no reason for any IRS agent to be armed — ever.

Should a warrant or arrest need to be made, local and federal law enforcement should assist in the delivery or arrest. An IRS agent should merely be sitting in the van while this takes place.

We don’t need more police forces in this country. We have that covered very well — and with recent events — too well…

21 posted on 08/13/2022 5:29:01 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: Thunder90

R E N T E N M A R K

Global
666


22 posted on 08/13/2022 5:29:14 AM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite prayer warriors)
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To: babble-on

1 year or 10 years it is completely OUT OF LINE and unnecessary. Blow it off at your own peril.


23 posted on 08/13/2022 5:31:49 AM PDT by LibertyWoman (America, the Handwriting is on the Wall. )
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Your post should make sodpoodle happy. Well done.


24 posted on 08/13/2022 5:35:50 AM PDT by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: Magnatron

100% Agreement


25 posted on 08/13/2022 5:38:13 AM PDT by LibertyWoman (America, the Handwriting is on the Wall. )
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To: HYPOCRACY
It IS scary when you know that, in Tax Court, the burden of proof is generally on the petitioner. This means that you need to bring to court evidence, such as documents and testimony of witnesses (you and maybe others), to prove that the determination of the IRS is not correct and that your position is correct.

The presumption of innocence is not guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution. However, through statutes and court decisions–such as the U.S. Supreme Court case of Taylor v. Kentucky–it has been recognized as one of the most basic requirements of a fair trial.

....except in Tax Court.

26 posted on 08/13/2022 5:43:08 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: LibertyWoman

They are an armed Nat’l Police Force. Doesn’t anyone see that? It will take billions to support that many employees and they will not collect that much annually.


27 posted on 08/13/2022 5:45:00 AM PDT by chopperk
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To: stockpirate

The new police force will be bigger and more powerful and authoritative than all those agencies combined. Now that is NOT funny.


28 posted on 08/13/2022 5:46:08 AM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

We got on our Bus,,,
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Thanks for the chuckle.


29 posted on 08/13/2022 5:50:00 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (We Are JONAH)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

PRICELESS


30 posted on 08/13/2022 5:51:45 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: LibertyWoman

There is a report out there that IRS got their guns taken away form them.


31 posted on 08/13/2022 5:54:53 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: LibertyWoman

This is the army that will be used for the gun grab. Also, they will be targeting opponents of the democRATS, the first and second amendments will be terminated.


32 posted on 08/13/2022 6:03:28 AM PDT by kenmcg (t)
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To: LibertyWoman

Yes I’m sure people ate rushing to apply. 🙄


33 posted on 08/13/2022 6:39:34 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: kenmcg

The revenuers are coming!


34 posted on 08/13/2022 6:41:24 AM PDT by uscga77 (the truth remains)
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To: babble-on
The numbers posted all over the place never made any sense.

As if there are 87,000 unemployed CPAs out there just waiting for the opportunity to go work for the IRS.

35 posted on 08/13/2022 6:55:51 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: Taxman

Ping


36 posted on 08/13/2022 6:58:34 AM PDT by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA!)
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To: Alberta's Child

We’ll have to import them from Asia.


37 posted on 08/13/2022 7:00:53 AM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: LibertyWoman

These are not net numbers. The IRS employees are old because the agency has been starved of budget for decades. There is a heavy pace of retirement, and these new hires will be replacing retirees. The staffing level is already 15,000 workers lower than it was 10 years ago.

The computers are obsolete, mostly dating from the 1970s. When people submit paper tax filings IRS employees have to input the data by hand because there is no scanning technology there. Buying and implementing new software will make the agency more competent and will reduce errors and inaccuracies at the IRS.

The current audit rate is less than 1/3 what it was in 2010. There has to be a credible enforcement mechanism, or people will simply not pay their taxes. For incomes between 1 and 5 million only 1% get examinations of any kind. This is simply not a credible degree of tax law enforcement.


38 posted on 08/13/2022 7:04:23 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: LibertyWoman; Man50D; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; Bigun; PeteB570; FBD; ...

There is a solution to this impending problem of the IRS sending a multitude of new ARMED Officers “. . . to harass our people and eat out their substance.”

The FAIRtax!

The FAIRtax will replace the Marxist-inspired “progressive” income tax with a simple, easy to understand, easy (and CHEAP) to administer, flat rate National Retail Sales Tax and ABOLISH the IRS!

April 15th will become just another nice Spring day!

Go to https://www.fairtax.org and/or https://www.bigsolution.org to find out how you can help us do that.

We will never be a FRee country so long as we have a Marxist-inspired “progressive” income tax and an IRS!


39 posted on 08/13/2022 7:05:28 AM PDT by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Exactly. That is just not what is going on. It’s a scare tactic, that is as usual built on less-than-half truths.


40 posted on 08/13/2022 7:06:55 AM PDT by babble-on
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