Posted on 08/10/2022 9:57:06 AM PDT by Subcutaneous Fishstick Blues
During Monday’s transmission of MSNBC‘s “The Beat With Ari Melber,” the host touched on last week’s Alex Jones Sandy Hook lawsuit verdict that resulted in a jury issuing a $50 million fine against the Infowars founder.
Melber’s segment explained the precedent set by the Jones trial will now be used to take out other media personalities and outlets countering establishment narratives, which will be a death blow to the First Amendment.
“This is actually a larger warning for other liars and conspiracy theorists in our society and our politics,” the MSNBC host said. “It’s a rebuke and a punishment that we believe according to a lot of legal experts will set a new precedent.”
Explaining what the Jones case could mean for others, Melber cited a current $1.6 million defamation suit filed against Fox News by Dominion Voting Systems.
Next, Melber laughably said he was going to interview an expert on “lies” before introducing Mother Jones Washington Bureau Chief David Corn.
The wide-eyed anchor asked Corn what the Alex Jones trial could mean for other outlets and personalities and he answered, “Right now we see Dominion not just suing Fox. Dominion Voting is suing OAN, it’s suing Newsmax, it’s suing [former NYC mayor] Rudy Giuliani, it’s suing the pillow guy, it’s suing [attorney] Sidney Powell.”
Moving on to what he claimed is an even bigger issue, Corn said, “We’ve seen conspiracism take deep root within the Republican Party and the conservative movement over the last five, ten, fifteen years. Alex Jones helped put it there, he wasn’t the only one who did this. Trump did it with birtherism.”
“The whole conspiracy theory industry has sort of subsumed the Republican Party and the conservative movement,” he added before telling viewers the Alex Jones verdict spells trouble for other controversial figures.
Finally getting to the big elusive fish the political establishment has been trying to hook for years now, Corn said, “Donald Trump went out on election night and claimed there was fraud, claimed… you know the Big Lie started immediately without having any evidence, any facts.”
The Mother Jones DC Bureau Chief also claimed former Trump Attorney General Bill Barr was subpoenaed in the Dominion case against Fox because he told Trump “the conspiracy theories about Dominion Voting machines is total crap.”
This sentiment being promoted on mainstream cable news echoes what attorney Wesley Ball admitted during the closing arguments of the Alex Jones Sandy Hook trial last week.
“I ask that with your verdict you not only take Alex Jones’ platform away, I ask that you make certain he can’t rebuild the platform. That’s what matters. Take him out of this discourse of this misinformation, of this peddling of lies and make sure he can’t do it again. That is punishment. That is deterrence,” Ball said.
“I hope we never see someone like him again… Alex Jones is patient zero for alternative facts,” the attorney argued, proving the case is less about the families and more about the establishment’s war on free speech.
The tort of defamation has been around far longer than Alex Jones or any of us has even been alive. This is not a “precedent.” Any of us would have rightfully sued if Jones or anyone made such claims about us.
I’m sure Jones has been compensated quite handsomely for his role in this.
Trump did it with birtherism.
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“Birtherism” is the greatest Alinsky ever perpetrated. Those who use the term assist in the denigration of the Constitution
They have gotten the American people to reject one of the most valuable safeguards bequeathed to us by the founders.
The natural born citizen clause served us well until we allowed it to be ignored.
Barry Soetoro/Barack Hussein Obama should be proof enough of the wisdom of the founders when they tried to prevent him from being President by requiring someone who could only be a US citizen and nothing else.
Born here of citizen parents.
Naturally a US citizen because there is no other possibility.
One cannot be anything else and also be a natural born citizen.
It does not matter if he was born in Hawaii if his father was a foreign national.
Children of foreign nationals inherit the nationality of their foreign national parent(s).
Natural born citizen means born here of citizen parents.
People born with divided loyalties, allegiance and citizenship are not naturally Americans.
The children of foreign nationals are precisely who the founders were excluding from the office.
Only when one cannot be anything else can one be a natural born citizen.
No foreign birth.
No foreign parent(s)
No foreign citizenship(s)
No foreign influence on the Presidency is what John Jay stated in a letter to George Washington as the reason for insisting on a natural born citizen.
Obama told us he was born a British subject.
Who believes Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jay, Monroe, Madison, etc. would have found him to be a natural born citizen?
Who believes they would have thought the recently deceased King of Thailand was eligible to be President?
He was born in Cambridge MA.
Usurpation Day, January 20, 2009, happened with the complete cooperation of both parties.
They want the Constitution changed without the hassle of amending the Constitution.
Confuse people about the clear meaning of a three word phrase and voila, every anchor baby and Winston Churchill is eligible.
The bench was the reason the GOP went along with the fig leaf resolution for McCain that was used by the Democrats as cover for Obama.
Jindal, Rubio, Haley, George P. Bush and Cruz were all up and comers and the future of the party and ineligible.
The truth of the Kenyanesian Usurpation will never see the light of day because both parties cooperated in the violation of the Constitution
Completely off topic and completely false...as usual from you.
Do you ever get embarrassed in the slightest posting that garbage?
The nature of the “claims” may be weirder than you think.
Is it “defamation” if someone claims that “all citizens of State X are liars” and then one citizen of that state sues the speaker?
It looks like that is what Jones did—he said all the parents were crisis actors, and then one parent sues him for defamation even though he did not specifically mention them as an individual.
This is an ugly precedent.
Well. Could not Trump sue the alphabet networks for the idiotic Russia “scandals” they were happy to perpetuate?
Alex was the canary in the coal mine. You will regret this. But not all of us.
It’s in the article.
Revealing the truth about the Kenyanesian Usurpation is what terrifies them the most.
What did it take them? 3 business days? LOL
And all these shortsighted neocon simps loved dogpiling on Jones.
I haven’t followed this closely, but my understanding is Jones never used a single name of a parent in his misguided conspiracy theories. If that is the case, then this does set a new precedent. It means you can be sued when referring to an unincorporated group of people. If that’s the case, then we’ll all be rich for the slander against freedom loving Americans. So bring it. Meanwhile, I am sure Jones will appeal and it ain’t over until the fat lady sings.
For commies, ANYONE that disagrees with them are liars that need to be destroyed..they read Hitler’s playbook from front to back cover
Pot, meet kettle...
“”Corn said, “We’ve seen conspiracism take deep root within the Republican Party and the conservative movement over the last five, ten, fifteen years.””
Where on earth did they find him? I thought he disappeared from the scene years ago..
Any time conservatives don’t believe the lies of the MSM, they get labeled conspiracy theorists...Never heard of conspiracism but leave it to those scumbags to come up with something like that.
And the “Russia, Russia, Russia”?
David Corn.... noted.
The parents were a much more specific group of people than that of an entire state or organization, and it wasn’t an expression of an opinion about not liking them - they were statements of fact.
It's unsurprising that you've chimed in with this.
The big Media can defame all they wish [DNC stooge-judges will rubber-stamp the defamations] - but this will be used to crush anyone questioning The Narrative in public.
And you'll be marching in lockstep.
He is Corn-holio.
<>Alex Jones is patient zero for alternative facts,” the attorney argued, proving the case is less about the families and more about the establishment’s war on free speech.<>
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