Posted on 08/10/2022 9:02:24 AM PDT by redguyinabluestate
A Port Townsend woman has been permanently banned from the Mountain View Pool on Blaine Street after she confronted a transgender YMCA employee in the facility’s changing rooms and refused to leave the property until pool staff called the police.
Since the incident, protests and subsequent counter-protests have occurred over the past week outside Mountain View Pool, which is managed and operated by the Olympic Peninsula YMCA.
And with a spate of harassing and disturbing phones calls and emails — most coming from out of the county — YMCA officials decided to close the Mountain View Pool and the YMCA’s Jefferson County branch for the rest of the week.
Officials also said they were having trouble getting employees to come to work. The pool is now expected to open back up on Monday, Aug. 15.
The incident started when Julie Jaman began yelling at an 18-year-old YMCA employee, who is a transgender woman, in the women’s changing room at the pool.
While showering in the changing room, Jaman said she heard a “man’s voice” and claimed she “saw a man dressed in a woman’s bathing suit” who appeared to be watching young girls taking down their bathing suits to use the restroom, Jaman said in an interview with The Leader.
The confrontation grew into an argument with another pool employee who was in the room, and Jaman was told to leave.
Officials with the Olympic Peninsula YMCA disputed Jaman’s version of events.
Erin Hawkins said the employee did nothing wrong.
“One of our YMCA staff members, she accompanied two girls to the restroom facility, serving in a supervision role. At the ‘Y’ we have a rule of three; staff always accompany children in a group of three, and staff members are never alone with a child,” Hawkins said.
REPEAT OFFENDER
Hawkins said Jaman had violated the YMCA’s code of conduct for use of the facility, something YMCA officials said had happened multiple times in the past.
“One of the children was standing outside the restroom stall, and the other girl was using the restroom. Mrs. Jaman, then expressed her concern in a disrespectful manner toward this staff person, which violates the ‘Y’ code of conduct,” Hawkins said.
Jaman then got into an argument with the pool’s aquatic manager and refused to leave the facility, officials said, eventually leaving after a staff member called the Port Townsend Police Department.
In the police report from the incident, the Port Townsend officer noted that “Julie became very ‘triggered’ and had an emotional response” after seeing the transgender employee in the changing room.
The report also stated that the employee “was in the bathroom with a child in the day camp and Julie asked if she had a penis and started screaming at her to get out.”
After the confrontation, Jaman left the Mountain View Campus shortly after the police were called, according to the police report and YMCA.
Jaman was also told she could not come back.
“The manager informed Mrs. Jaman that her membership was suspended [indefinitely] for violating the YMCA’s code of conduct,” Hawkins said, referencing the YMCA’s rule that members cannot discriminate or harass patrons or staff members on the basis of sexual orientation.
“Julie Jaman has repeatedly violated the ‘Y’s code of conduct, such as using disrespectful words or gestures toward YMCA staff or others; abusive, harassing and/or obscene language or gestures toward YMCA staff or others,” Hawkins said in an email.
Jaman, who said she is a 35-year patron of the pool, said she never used vulgar language toward any YMCA employees nor has she been reprimanded at the pool in the past.
“I was told secondhand that I used vulgar or abusive language since the only charge made to me was that I was discriminating … I believe that that story of abusive language was made up later on,” Jaman said.
“I know all about pool etiquette; I’ve never been reviewed or reprimanded, a warning, nothing,” she said.
STATE LAW CITED
Jaman said that the main issue she has with the pool is the lack of clarity in the form of signs or other means to indicate that transgender women will be allowed in the women’s restroom.
YMCA officials said they were following state law in allowing access to its facilities.
Washington state law asserts that transgender people have the right to access locker rooms, changing rooms, and bathrooms that align with their gender expression or gender identity.
When asked if she acknowledges the gender identity of the transgender pool employee, Jaman did not give a clear answer, saying that she was confused by the question.
Since the incident, Jaman has continued to refer to the YMCA employee as a man.
Hawkins also said the YMCA implements a variety of background checks on pool staff and patrons before they are accepted into the facility.
“Most importantly, children who are entrusted to our care, we do have a series of measures in place to keep kids safe. Our staff received background checks before being hired by the YMCA,” Hawkins said.
Additionally, staff members complete training every year to recognize potential child abuse and applicants looking to join the pool are screened through software called Raptor Technologies, which checks to confirm that applicants aren’t sex offenders and have never committed crimes against children, according to the YMCA.
Following the incident, protests and counter-protests have occurred in front of the Mountain View Campus on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday of last week.
According to Hawkins, Tuesday, Aug. 2 drew the largest crowd with around 50 to 60 people, and the majority of those in attendance were counter-protesting in support of the YMCA’s decision and to support the LGBTQ+ community.
The incident has since prompted headlines on multiple conservative news and entertainment outlets, with many repeating the false claim that Jaman had confronted a man in the woman’s shower area and was banned by the YMCA because of it.
“Since then, the whole world has been knocking at my door,” Jaman said of the incident’s nationwide media coverage.
Mountain View Pool and the Olympic Peninsula YMCA have since received critical and negative phone calls and emails from people around the country.
“Staff have received harsh criticism and hateful messages from all over the country for the ‘Y’ acting in accordance with state law and revoking Julie’s membership for repeatedly violating our Code of Conduct,” Hawkins said via email, adding that only a few news outlets have reached out to the YMCA to hear its side of the story.
So far, the Mountain View Pool and Olympic Peninsula YMCA have received around 100 total calls and emails since the incident.
Jaman stated that she has been a victim of the after-effects from her pool incident as well, saying that the city of Port Townsend has taken the YMCA’s side and city representatives have accused her of being a bigot.
“At this point, it appears I am the one being discriminated against,” Jaman said.
ANGER BOILS OVER
The protests and discussions on transgender people using women’s and men’s restrooms and changing facilities spilled into the Port Townsend City Council meeting last week, with 25-plus advocates on both sides talking about the incident.
“This individual is not a man identifying as a woman; this individual is a woman. I think we need to have respect and inclusivity … it is inappropriate for people in this day and age, in 2022, not to recognize what transgender means,” said Sequim resident Rebecca Horst.
Tensions rose when both Port Townsend Mayor David Faber and City Manager John Mauro tried to talk after the public comment session.
Both were repeatedly interrupted when they tried to speak.
“I listened to you quietly; I would like you to listen to me quietly now,” Faber said.
“Port Townsend is a welcoming community, and hate and discrimination have no place in this community,” the mayor said. “LGBTQ people, trans people in particular in this case, are entitled to basic respect, and they have not been receiving that in much of the commentary tonight, calling them ‘pedophiles’ and ‘rapists’ and ‘predators.’”
“Our staff, our team, is comprised of a variety of individuals, some who identify as trans [and] LGBTQ community members, and it’s our duty to not just respect diversity, but to actually embrace that as part of what builds a strong city team,” Mauro added.
“I couldn’t stand up here and say to you that we are not behind the Y’s decision based on abusive behavior to stand for the respect of every individual,” he said.
Now we know who are masters are.
A grown man allowed to look at naked female children.
10 years ago, he’d be ________ from a tree.
Am I just a crank, or is literally every social, religious and governmental institution Americans have ever trusted being dismantled before our eyes?
One of the most beautiful places on earth to live, now befouled. Glad to be from the small once quiet fishing, logging, and mill town.
“Am I just a crank, or is literally every social, religious and governmental institution Americans have ever trusted being dismantled before our eyes?”
Yes, they are being dismantled before our eyes, and yes you are also a crank. Welcome to the club!
You’re a crank and so am I. Welcome to the club. Meetings are Wednesdays at 7pm.
I worked for an airline and in the 90’s there was a trans flight attendant on the uniform committee who would watch the female flight attendants undress and try on different sizes when we switched uniform companies. I NEVER tried them on, I would just give my size and hope they fit.
And to think Port Townsend was the location for “An Officer and A Gentleman.” Gunnery SGT Foley would be court martialed today for his language. lol
Imagine a world where pedophiles are a protected species......
You’re not a crank. Every social, religious and governmental institution Americans have ever trusted is being dismantled before our eyes.
“Am I just a crank, or is literally every social, religious and governmental institution Americans have ever trusted being dismantled before our eyes?’
Yes, and I’m a crank too.
One thing about this - this stops everyone in their tracks from reporting men going into the womens’ dressing rooms, walking around with their penises out and watching women and children shower, change clothes and go into the bathroom.
It will be a free for all. They don’t even need to dress like a woman or ‘transition’ - they an walk in, sit down and watch and no one can do a damn thing.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4084166/posts
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4083864/posts
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4083725/posts
It’s not fun to stay at the YMCA.
Am I missing it or did the article conveniently leave out that the woman is 80? Shame on the YMCA.
“LGBTQ people, trans people in particular in this case, are entitled to basic respect, and they have not been receiving that in much of the commentary tonight, calling them ‘pedophiles’ and ‘rapists’ and ‘predators.’”
If you don’t want to be called those names, stop insisting on violating other peoples’ right to privacy free from sexual harassment and intimidation.
Its the Port Townsend MisLeader as it is locally known.
Port Townsend was the location for “An Officer and A Gentleman.
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They were a blight on the town. No one wanted them there as they made the town even more of a tourist destination, cause housing prices to sky rocket and lots of other destructive results.
Starting in the 60's it was the military that was trashed. Then it was the clergy, then it was the police.
Now the reconstructed reality has begun. Teachers are in the position of controlling your children. Urban dwellers are being not to trust the police but the replacement neighborhood action groups. Most organized religion now has "woke" principles replacing ages old doctrine.
Worst of all, we are being told that octogenarian democrats know this is all best for us to the point of criminalizing dissent.
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