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A happy little girl…obliterated by Putin just minutes later: Killed four-year-old Down's Syndrome child and mother fighting for life are seen moments before Russian missiles killed 21 in Ukrainian city
Daily Mail ^ | 7/14/2022 | Will Stewart

Posted on 07/14/2022 7:58:25 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: MarvinStinson
Learn how to read, numbnuts.

You posted this to me.

Says the DEEP STATE propaganda swallower.

How would I know who it's addressed to Pirate Ragnar, since I was responding to him and you did not include him in the "to" list?

Learn how to write.

81 posted on 07/15/2022 4:18:51 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Contempt for pre-born human life breeds contempt for post-born human life.)
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To: McGruff

War is really, really bad. Therefore, it should be avoided whenever possible.

That’s all these posts amount to.

Lots of pretty little girls with dreams and bright futures died in Dresden, in Hiroshima, in Baghdad, and in other places.

War is terrible.


82 posted on 07/15/2022 4:22:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains)
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To: McGruff

Notice that it says that the artillery was firing toward separatist “positions,” i.e. military positions of the Russian occupation forces, just as they were firing back at Ukrainian military positions. There was not indiscriminate shelling of the civilian population. Enough with the Russian propaganda.


83 posted on 07/15/2022 4:30:50 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: McGruff

Whataboutism.


84 posted on 07/15/2022 5:03:28 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: NorseViking

“Do you think anyone is going to waste missiles of dance classes?”

Yes. Russia really is that dumb. But I agree they don’t do it deliberately. They do it because their intelligence machinery is infested with some of the most lazy, unquestioning, brain-dead imbeciles in any intelligence network anywhere in the world - and those imbeciles are under immense pressure to do psyops and deliver tactical wins for Russia.

Some commanders are so under pressure to secure a “win” that they make stupid decisions on the basis of what often turns out to be very inconclusive intelligence.

Fact 1: According to Simonyan and the Russian military, they definitely did fire a $6.5 million rocket with more than 32 times the on-cruise kinetic energy of a Tomahawk missile, and which can carry a thermonuclear payload.

Fact 2: Simonyan didn’t even seem to know that it WAS a concert hall. Which I find really funny. There’s a clothes store near me called “The Officer’s Club”, I suppose by her drunken logic, that’s definitely gonna be a legitimate military target.

Maybe I’m being a bit harsh on the old Russkies. Perhaps they planned to take out a full blown convention with hundreds of military hardware vendors present with order books. And yep, a missile that big and that expensive would be efficient. Then again... If Russia really does has good, and sympathetic, agents in that city and THAT is what they were taking out, then it would’ve made far more sense for them to try and listen into the conversations. Find out what weapons are going where, and when, and where they’re coming from.

If you know Zoom can be easily hacked, then you also know a Soviet Era conference room in a concert hall building in a city so blase about the war that people didn’t react to the air raid sirens, ALSO can be infiltrated. The intel would’ve useful to Russia. They could’ve saved a couple of million dollars’ worth of missile for a target that actually DID need to be erased.

Another factor. And it’s exemplified just as well by Russia’s expensive systems that they bought to shoot down HIMARs, turning out to be pretty ineffective. Russian commanders act on faulty, if not fabricated, evidence because they politically can’t say no.

So much of the intelligence, and procurement, networks in Russia are skimming off the top that Russia really can’t even trust its own trusted intelligence analysts and suppliers. But they are so pressured to deliver results, they can’t risk carrying the can for not acting on the information given to them.

So when some random phones in a message to the effect of, there’s this building in a city in the middle of Ukraine which will have loads of nazis in it on this day/time, chances are

(a) it’s some complete random with no such knowledge whatsoever, hoping for a big kickback for making an unverifiable claim.

(b) the general in charge has a compelling incentive to just take it at face value and order the strike based on that unverifiable claim.


85 posted on 07/15/2022 5:36:17 AM PDT by MalPearce
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To: McGruff

The America-is-more-evil-than-Russia closet-Marxist infiltrators here have made themselves known, thankfully.


86 posted on 07/15/2022 5:43:32 AM PDT by Vaden (CAUTION: Defending Putin=Defending Hitler=MAGA Destruction)
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To: logi_cal869

What about the Christian children slaughtered in Nigeria by Muslims, they never talk about that.

Black Lives don’t mean squat when it doesn’t fit the agenda.


87 posted on 07/15/2022 5:46:58 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

“But Foggy Bottom wanted to rub Russia’s nose in it. And Bush and Clinton obliged them.”

Sounds like France’s attitude towards Germany after WWI...


88 posted on 07/15/2022 5:54:49 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

Precisely.


89 posted on 07/15/2022 5:56:35 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SoConPubbie

You said “every day”.

Back up your numbers or back down.

L


90 posted on 07/15/2022 5:57:21 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: dfwgator

Yup (I was holding arrows in my quiver ;-) )


91 posted on 07/15/2022 6:11:07 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: MalPearce

Yes. Russia really is that dumb. But I agree they don’t do it deliberately.


Absolutely. Russia never shot 20,000 Polish officers in the head, etc., etc. There is a long history of mass murder as a matter of government policy in Russia. Putin is just continuing that heritage. Russia can’t dominate Ukraine politically, can’t steal it easily and now tries to destroy it. It’s that simple, really.


92 posted on 07/15/2022 6:11:54 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: MalPearce

Ah, projection. Tell me when the Russian military strikes a family with a drone. Ukraine deliberately fires on peaceful people in revenge for picking the other side. Why the media doesn’t report it?


93 posted on 07/15/2022 6:22:05 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Lurker
You said “every day”.

Back up your numbers or back down.


Take a remedial course in English or back down.

"every day" does not presume, as an only meaning, every day from the beginning of an event.

"every day" can also mean starting at anytime during a timeline.
94 posted on 07/15/2022 6:33:49 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

So what’s the timeline then, Skippy. When exactly did “every day” start?

Yesterday? 3 days ago? 2 months ago?

L


95 posted on 07/15/2022 6:36:37 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: NorseViking

Seriously?!

I’ve never seen any credible evidence that such incidents are being conducted deliberately and as a matter of policy directed from Kyiv’s government and military command.

Russia readily admits that its soldiers are not acting against orders, they’re OBEYING orders. So if the Russian Military says it ordered a missile strike on a civilian building in central Ukraine and a missile from Russia hits that city, it was OBVIOUSLY an illegitimate order that was illegitimately carried out.

There’s a bit of a gray area with Wagner and the Kadyrovites. Both groups get their orders from Russia but they’re outside the chain of command. So, illegal orders but no proof that they were from Russia.


96 posted on 07/15/2022 7:45:48 AM PDT by MalPearce
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To: MalPearce

Terror bombings and human shields are signature tactics of the Ukrainian forces.
Now they are running a campaign of terror in liberated areas killing ‘collaborators’ and passers by by car bombs.
Russian military to the contrary acts under strict rules to minimize the collateral damage, which gave Nazis some edge in the early days.


97 posted on 07/15/2022 8:36:16 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: marcusmaximus

Fake News.

See tagline.


98 posted on 07/15/2022 12:41:16 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Fake News. Might be true but designed to distort, mislead, brainwash and BS sheeple. )
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To: marcusmaximus

99 posted on 07/15/2022 4:04:58 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: dfwgator

In war 100’s of thousands of soldiers die, and many Millions of regular Joes and Janes. Civilians always take the brunt, even when Bush attacked Iraq for no reason....twice.


100 posted on 07/15/2022 7:35:26 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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