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Inflation, and what comes next?
Yahoo Finance, AP ^ | 07/13/2022 | Alexandra Semenova

Posted on 07/13/2022 7:20:45 AM PDT by tanstaafl.72555

U.S. consumer prices in June accelerated at the fastest annual pace since November 1981.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: inflation; iylm; preppers
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To: tanstaafl.72555

Would not surprise me in the least if that were still happening.

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What would be truly surprising is if it was NOT happening.

Today’s report, though somewhat expected, was still way above the consensus estimate. At the 9.1 rate the Fed is going to have to keep raising, which increases the cost of doing business for all companies. by all normal logic, the market should be down a lot more than it is.

But it isn’t. A new form of invisible hand, as it were.


41 posted on 07/13/2022 8:23:36 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: dhs12345

And then the Reagan Renaissance will follow. If we are not destroyed first.

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We were a different country back then. Totally different place from today’s permanent kleptocracy.


42 posted on 07/13/2022 8:25:32 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard

You’ll always suffer if you fall for the “everything is a conspiracy” BS. I’ve watched it happen for almost 50 years. Been through 3 real estate crashes and made out bigger on each one.

People that are fixated by the present never prosper. Huge opportunities are in place right now, I have friends who are doing great. I don’t need to take big risks anymore, but I’m watching for the next land opportunity timing just to help out my heirs.


43 posted on 07/13/2022 8:30:47 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: Starboard
It won't be easy. But average Americans (left, center, right) are basic and high interest rates, inflation, and high gasoline prices are not popular (and will not be popular) just like they weren't in the 70s under Carter.

The question will be: will we be able to pull out of the nose dive in time to recover. It won't be easy.

44 posted on 07/13/2022 8:31:15 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Starboard

The market will indeed close up…at 4 pm per usual. Let’s not get hysterical people.


45 posted on 07/13/2022 8:40:45 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Right.

1. The daily/weekly/monthly movements of the market are meaningless!

2. Fortunes are made by taking advantage of real estate crashes.

3. The house you live in isn’t really an investment.


46 posted on 07/13/2022 8:47:35 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: tanstaafl.72555
Lots of wisdom in that post, but I think comparisons to the 1970s and 1980s can be misleading. One major difference is that the U.S. was in much better shape from a demographic standpoint in 1980 than in 2020. I would suggest that deflation is likely to be a much more formidable problem in the coming years.

If that's the case, then buying gold and silver isn't going to do much good. The prices for those commodities are going to decline (at worst) or stay flat (at best) over the long term, anyway.

The only major financial move I made recently was to draw on a major line of credit from my personal bank that I use for my business. I don't need the money, but they're offering a ridiculously low promotional interest rate for the next 18 months. I'll just put the money in the bank for 18 months and earn 1.2% interest while paying 0.5% on the loan.

47 posted on 07/13/2022 8:47:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: dhs12345

The question will be: will we be able to pull out of the nose dive in time to recover. It won’t be easy.

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The problem is America is not the same place it used to be. Demographics, ethics, morality and culture have fundamentally changed. How do you reorient the purpose and character of a nation once its changed to the degree ours has?


48 posted on 07/13/2022 8:47:55 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: tanstaafl.72555

Ash, is that you?
Eschoir?
Mojo?


49 posted on 07/13/2022 8:47:58 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: hinckley buzzard; Fury

I am so screwed.


50 posted on 07/13/2022 8:48:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: dhs12345
Some of us laugh out loud when we read some of these hand-wringing posts on FR.

Back when interest rates were near 0% this website was filled with people complaining that seniors living on fixed incomes can't afford to pay their bills. They said it was IMPERATIVE that interest rates must rise to help these people survive.

Now, this website is filled with people complaining that rising interest rates are going to DESTROY the U.S. and bring on a never-before-seen economic Armageddon.

I suspect the same people are posting these diametrically opposing rants here.

51 posted on 07/13/2022 8:54:12 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: Lazamataz

I dont know these names, so no


52 posted on 07/13/2022 8:54:55 AM PDT by tanstaafl.72555
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
...His point was we have to do something about fossil fuels (he already made his money) because they will destroy the climate. A LOT of people believe this. Don’t see much hope.

There is definitely a lot of that religion out there. And it is being reinforced by the lefty leadership with the delusional promise that green energy is a job and economic cherry just waiting for the picking.

53 posted on 07/13/2022 8:56:12 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: tanstaafl.72555

“And what comes next”

C O L Buying power drop
Unemployment
Deflation


54 posted on 07/13/2022 8:58:10 AM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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To: SaxxonWoods
You’ll always suffer if you fall for the “everything is a conspiracy” BS. I’ve watched it happen for almost 50 years. Been through 3 real estate crashes and made out bigger on each one.

People that are fixated by the present never prosper. Huge opportunities are in place right now, I have friends who are doing great. I don’t need to take big risks anymore, but I’m watching for the next land opportunity timing just to help out my heirs.


I will have you know, sir, that I have called perfectly all 13 of the past 3 recessions /smile

While I am phenomenally gloomy on the long term health of the USD, and expect a collapse and maybe a breakup of the USA, betting that "THIS IS IT!" is a sure way to go broke.

when the end comes, it will be the day AFTER you get stopped out of your leveraged futures position for lack of sufficient margin! Someone will make a mint by calling the top of the dollar and the beginning of the plunge and get real leveraged up on it. He will later be on CNBC and folks will write a book about it.... that person just won't be me! lol
55 posted on 07/13/2022 9:02:52 AM PDT by tanstaafl.72555
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To: gloryblaze

The Old Ones.

Nephilim Summerian cult. Gath. Ashtaroth. Goliath.
Isis. Diana. Molech.

8th circle of the Coming delusion. 2 Thessalonians.


56 posted on 07/13/2022 9:05:14 AM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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To: SaxxonWoods

You’ll always suffer if you fall for the “everything is a conspiracy” BS.

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Do you buy the 9.1% inflation number the government has conveniently been able to manufacture? Who believes that? It bears no resemblance to the real cost of living. Now THAT is an example of real BS.

How about the ‘transitory’ nonsense they fed us? Yet another case of pure BS.

You may be completely unaffected by inflation. If so, good for you. But its causing very challenging and stressful problems for most people in this country. Many of who do not have the luxury of investing in land speculation.


57 posted on 07/13/2022 9:07:37 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Q3 inflation will be “unexpectedly” low as it’s used for 2023 Social security COLA increases.

The Social Security COLA increase for 2023 is calculated based on the inflation from Q4 2021 through Q3 2022.

58 posted on 07/13/2022 9:10:24 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Starboard
Lets hope that the desire for self preservation wins. When people cannot afford to feed their families, all of the other garbage is moot.

Democrats live in a fantasy world where a woman is not a woman and microaggressions are at every corner and if you don't use the right pronoun people will whine and be offended and cry. I hope that Republicans are more realistic about the world and that that will make the difference when times are tough. The real world is cold cruel and tough and we are just a short distance from knowing the cold cruel world first hand. The ivory towers that we live under will fall and then what?

59 posted on 07/13/2022 9:13:27 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Alberta's Child

“INTEREST RATES” will not “destroy” the US. They are the antidote for what will destroy the US (the deliberate destruction of the currency by the fed). The problem is, we have pushed back the needed correction for too much money so intensely and so long (ESPECIALLY since 2007) that if we really grind down on interest rates to choke out inflation, it will actually seem like we are “destroying” the economy.

Were you around in 2001-2002? Before the fed finally let interest rates go, the results were nothing less than apocalyptic. I saw my dad lose everything he had (he was in real estate), and have to go out to TX to work in the oil fields. It was very ugly.

The point is, to address the problem now, it is going to be very much like the philosophy of chemo to a cancer patient. You poison his whole body with the hopes that the cancer dies before he does. It won’t be pretty. The alternative is to believe the BS of the feelgood money printers who have already destroyed over 60% of the dollar’s value in just the last 10 years.

If that sound like “hand wringing” to you then ... well... good luck to you. I ain’t buyin’


60 posted on 07/13/2022 9:14:24 AM PDT by tanstaafl.72555
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