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Ukraine aims to amass 'million-strong army' to recapture south, says defence minister
BBC ^ | July 11, 2022

Posted on 07/11/2022 4:56:14 AM PDT by McGruff

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To: StAntKnee

My fear is more like Operation Linebacker in Vietnam. How many billions did we manage to flush for the Military-Industrial folks before we had folks hanging on helicopters to leave there?


21 posted on 07/11/2022 5:46:03 AM PDT by silent majority rising ( )
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To: Jan_Sobieski

OK, you win. I’m for the ouster of Petrochenkov. Oh, wait....


22 posted on 07/11/2022 5:47:29 AM PDT by dangus
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To: tlozo

I see, so not only can you do a seance to commune with the dead Reagan to know what his opinion is on current events, you also have psychic powers to know exactly what the opinion is of millions of people you don’t know and haven’t spoken to.

Either that or are you are really good at convincing yourself of things you have no way of knowing.

Maybe your way of discerning truth is broken


23 posted on 07/11/2022 5:48:24 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Jan_Sobieski

To be a little less flippant:

Would you rather elect Trump or Desantis in two and a half years, or have your entire nation laid waste by a nation which murdered 1/3 of your nation’s population 80 years ago, citing the Biden election, going forth and bombing every one of America’s major cities?

IOW: Yes, Petrochenkov and Soros did terribly evil things in Ukraine, but that doesn’t make Russia’s invasion justifiable.


24 posted on 07/11/2022 5:50:34 AM PDT by dangus
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To: McGruff

This is a scam to build weapons. This is not true at all. Men are leaving Ukraine. Some crazies are going there. But they shot their wad with regard to Ukrainian men. If a million people show up in front of Russian guns they will be foreigners. Probably they will be from Syria or Africa. But they will not be Ukrainian men. Those men are already there. Or they have stolen away to other countries. But there are not new ones ready to fight.

This story is merely created to get governments like ours to provide funding to weapons makers and Ukraine. Its a money pit. And we are destroying the country. Ukraine will be unlivable and certainly not populated by Ukrainians when this thing is through.


25 posted on 07/11/2022 5:54:36 AM PDT by poinq
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To: dangus

Ukraine wasn’t a nation then, nor for many, many centuries before it.

The soviet union wasn’t Russia, and Stalin wasn’t even Russian. Anyone who disagreed with Stalin would be disappeared along with their family.
It is absurd and insane to collectively blame Russia forever for what Stalin did.
By the way, most of the people who implemented the Holomodor directly were... Ukrainian. Not that I blame them, see previous statement about Stalin’s totalitarian terror meaning they had little real choice


26 posted on 07/11/2022 5:56:20 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: dangus

Russia’s invasion is not justifiable. But neither is ours. If we were not in Ukraine Russia would not be in this fight. They would be working with Ukraine.


27 posted on 07/11/2022 5:56:40 AM PDT by poinq
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To: McGruff

Right. They are now conscripting women.


28 posted on 07/11/2022 5:57:01 AM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: dangus

Also Russia resisted fiercely the takeover by the communists, there was a civil war, the white’s vs the red’s.

You might also consider that Russians suffered not less terribly than the Ukrainians from the soviet communists.


29 posted on 07/11/2022 5:57:44 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: McGruff

30 posted on 07/11/2022 5:58:06 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: Mount Athos
Either that or are you are really good at convincing yourself of things you have no way of knowing.

Putin's invasion of Ukraine is wrong. See? Its easy to say if you're honestly supporting Ukraine.

31 posted on 07/11/2022 5:58:28 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: dangus

So? Poland wasn’t a nation from 1795 to 1918, so they don’t have a right to exist?


32 posted on 07/11/2022 6:00:44 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Denial, it's not just a river in Egypt.
33 posted on 07/11/2022 6:09:05 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: tlozo

Is that why Crimea, Luhansk, and Donetsk seceded from Ukraine? Because they hate Russia? They must have invited Russian forces to help against Kiev for the same reason…correct?


34 posted on 07/11/2022 6:12:34 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: dangus
IOW: Yes, Petrochenkov and Soros did terribly evil things in Ukraine, but that doesn’t make Russia’s invasion justifiable.

It appears Eastern and Southern Ukraine believe it’s perfectly Justified.
35 posted on 07/11/2022 6:15:32 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: McGruff

https://bobsegarini.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/monkeys-might-fly-out-of-my-butt.jpg?w=412&h=311


36 posted on 07/11/2022 6:20:01 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Is that why Crimea, Luhansk, and Donetsk seceded from Ukraine? Because they hate Russia? They must have invited Russian forces to help against Kiev for the same reason…correct?

Little green men from Russia.

By April 2014, Russian citizens had taken control of the separatist movement, and were supported by volunteers and materiel from Russia, including Chechen and Cossack fighters. According to DPR commander Igor Girkin, without this support in April, the movement would have fizzled out, as it had in Kharkiv and Odessa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War#2014_Russian_annexation_of_Crimea

37 posted on 07/11/2022 6:20:23 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: McGruff

And I “aim” to win a Pulitzer. Not gonna happen.

Zalensky is brilliant. He has figured out the scam. Ukraine is now money laundering pit in the world #1, replacing Switzerland.


38 posted on 07/11/2022 6:22:35 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: tlozo

Perhaps people need to pay attention and realize the Liberal World Order of Western nations is the new USSR empire reborn and every bit as oppressive and as evil, maybe more so, since the advent of tech, than the old empire.

Wrong is wrong no matter what people or nations want to call themselves. Anyone can declare their country a “democracy”. But they really are not and you know it. To say otherwise would be a lie.

We have two sides here and no side is saints.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/07/10/un-human-rights-report-shows-ukraine-military-used-nursing-home-residents-as-human-shields/


39 posted on 07/11/2022 6:23:51 AM PDT by dforest (We have to put a stop to this now.)
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To: McGruff

Kinda late now. Cannon fodder? Tossing a million at the front with no plans reminds me of the 1980’s Iran/Iraqi war, lotta dead.


40 posted on 07/11/2022 6:25:47 AM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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