Posted on 07/10/2022 7:15:41 AM PDT by FarCenter
What explains America’s hyper-ideological response to the Ukraine crisis? Less than a year before Vladimir Putin launched his invasion, Washington had wrapped up two decades of lousy regime-change wars, waged in the name of planting “freedom” in that region’s inhospitable soil. There was, or seemed to be, broad agreement that liberal moralism in foreign policy stood discredited: It had destabilized whole swaths of the Middle East and North Africa and bogged down America and its allies in the region’s bloody and intricate enmities—and to what end?
Yet now, a few months later, the United States and its NATO allies are once again on an escalatory path, handing billions of dollars’ worth of sophisticated weaponry to Kyiv, deploying covert operatives to assist the Ukrainians, and mounting massive (if so far useless) economic sanctions against Russia. This is a proxy war against Moscow in which Western or Ukrainian victory is an utter fantasy. And yet Washington, it seems, is prepared to fight the Kremlin down to the last Ukrainian. And all this has been done, once again, to win, as President Biden tweeted, “a great battle for freedom. A battle between democracy and autocracy. Between liberty and repression.”
“In persisting in this way, the US-led Western bloc, the world's last ideological empire, will ensure its own demise.” This Manichaean framing has done the job so far. That is, the foreign-policy Blob has appeared largely successful in using the crisis to breathe new life into the liberal imperium and marshal support for its faltering institutions, not least the Western Alliance. Appearances can be misleading, however. When all is said and done, the war (and the reaction of Western governments) will likely be seen as the liberal ruling class’s collective swan song for the post-1945, ideological world order. As other powers abandon ideology in favor of reasserting national and civilizational claims, the United States and its various clients and satraps remain committed to ideological struggle, to bolstering liberalism—the one modern ideology that survived the previous century’s clash of ideologies.
In persisting in this way, the US-led Western bloc, the world’s last ideological empire, will ensure its own demise, and the swan song will give way to a self-composed elegy.
Being stupid is somehow patriotic and a civic duty.
We can hope this is the last gasp of the liberal, globalist world order, but I’m not counting it out, yet. Open, direct conflict against the Globohomo power structure is not yet possible through means other than proxy wars, but Team America World Police is quickly winding down. If I was the leader of a foreign country, I would milk us for all it’s worth, then jump ship as soon as the $ ran out.
the United States and its various clients and satraps remain committed to ideological struggle, to bolstering liberalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology
Russia invaded Ukraine, rocket-bombed its cities, stole vast swathes of its territory for eventual incorporation into Russia, committed various international war crimes against the civilian population, threatens the first-use of nuclear weapons, and continues doing so to this very day.
Putin boasts that they have "hardly begun" - and the West is on an "escalatory path?!"
This is the most absurd, arrogantly cynical, yet simultaneously thread-bare Russian propaganda I have encountered in... days.
Regards,
Yeah, when a leader blithely boasts that 30,000 dead troops on his side is “just the beginning” it never ends well for that country.
The liberal, globalist world order will be defeated by the passive-aggressive behavior of increasingly non-aligned nations.
They will simply stop taking orders from New York, London, and Washington and increasingly pursue their own interests.
They know that we are incapable of invading and occupying any country that actively resists.
They will keep their behavior just under the threshold where we would bomb them.
“in the name of planting “freedom” in that region’s inhospitable soil”
When our elites say “freedom,” they mean Drag Queen Story Hour and worse. Until that is understood, the rest is just leftover Cold War emotions.
We have read your incessant trashing of similar articles and ask the simple question:
Who is winning?
Sanctions against Russia are backfiring and destroying Western Europe, not Russia.
Whether Ukraine does or does not continue as a nation is none of the business of the United States. It is only the business of corrupt American politicians who have been ripping off the people of Ukraine for decades.
If the USA really “cared” about the people of Ukraine, there would be diplomatic pressure to stop the war so it would not continue until the last Ukrainian dies in hopeless fighting by the people of Ukraine in a war they cannot possibly win.
Yeah, all of that fell outta the sky one day for reasons that are a complete mystery. Your post is “exhibit A” as to why Germans should really not have a seat at the table regarding Ukraine for another few centuries.
Funny how clearly correct he has been about most things.
This war would never have started if Trump had been President.
“Russia invaded Ukraine, rocket-bombed its cities, stole vast swathes of its territory for eventual incorporation into Russia, committed various international war crimes against the civilian population”
You are German and said this without the slightest hint of awareness of that German vice. (Not the homosexual one) That other vice is a messianic zeal to prove to everyone how much you aren’t like those evil nazis. So now everyone must listen to you about Ukraine, about the refugee flood from Africa, about the West Bank, about Syria, etc.
Because after all, nobody but Germans can really understand...right?
You guys are like someone who murdered his wife eventually getting released from prison and becoming a domestic violence advocate. Yeah, you have worthy points here and there, but basically, Germans are still working out their own guilty conscience demons and it gets tiresome for the rest of us.
It takes really weird turns at times, like when you side with Palestinians against the Israelis and pretend like the Palis are todays Jews. Or when you side with Galician nazis that have controlling interest in Ukraine. The German demons take you in odd directions.
We don’t blame you for what grandpa did, but don’t expect us to turn to you for advice on final solutions on the Ukraine.
The Japanese version is total pacifism, Hello Kitty, introversion etc.
Exactly.
"Unga bunga bunga, in da binga binga bunga"
The US did not encounter stiff opposition when we killed Allende and replaced him with our puppet or when we propped up scum like the Shah of Iran well past his sell by date. It was okay for the US to engage in realpolitik but somehow Russia is denied this form of diplomacy.
Putin (Putler?) owes his position ironically not to the false ideology of liberalism, but to the utopian ideology of libertarianism. It was the 1990's version of the Chicago Boys that descended upon Moscow after the Wall fell to sing them the siren song of free markets and individualism.
Gorbachev might have led Russia into becoming just another quasi-socialist European nation like France or Germany. Instead Russia got a drunken Boris who reigned while ex- members of the KGB with their insider knowledge gamed the "markets" touted by the freemarketeers and became the oligarchs the libertarians publicly despise but secretly wish to be.
But then the libertarians have always been obedient if naive lapdogs for the globalists. Supporting the flooding of nations with legal and illegal immigrants and the export of entire industries to the lowest bidder backwaters. With the middle class decimated and the voting roles stuffed with socialist-leaning thirdworlders they should not be surprised that their pipe dreams of low taxes, an end to welfare, small government, and an NAP-oriented legal system are shattered.
The liberals will give the libertarians their marijuana, gay sex, and bible-free motel rooms, but deny them their guns, their property rights and their freedom of speech.
There is no moral high ground in this war between Russia and NATO. To believe otherwise is to be as naive as... oh I don't know... maybe as naive as a libertarian.
There is no moral high ground in this war between Russia and NATO. To believe otherwise is to be as naive as... oh I don’t know... maybe as naive as a libertarian.
Your lengthy diatribe is intended, I think, only to "roil the waters," over-complicate the situation, and distract from the simple truth that Russia's invasion of Ukraine (and the subsequent atrocities it committed) overshadows everything else.
Unlike you, I don't wish to waste time speculating what would have happened had Gorbachev prevailed or Yeltsin succumbed or anything else. Contractual history bores me and deflects from the actual facts on the ground:
Putin's Russia has broken treaties in spirit and in fact.
Putin's Russia has attempted to change borders in Europe by military means.
Putin's Russia has launched an unprovoked attack against its peaceful neighbor.
Putin's Russia has made itself into an international pariah, condemned by all but a handful of pseudo-states, plus China, N. Korea, and Syria.
Putin's Russia is indulging in nuclear "sable-rattling."
Putin's Russia - with a population of less than Bangladesh and an economy comparable to that of Spain's, alone - cannot prevail, nor can it be allowed to prevail.
Regards,
Blatant ad hominem attack!
Please attack my facts and/or my logic - not my (supposed) nationality or ethnic heritage!
Regards,
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