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U.S. Treasury to end 1979 treaty with global minimum tax holdout Hungary
Reuters ^ | 7/8/2022

Posted on 07/09/2022 7:48:00 AM PDT by Right Wing Vegan

The U.S. Treasury on Friday said it was moving to terminate a 1979 tax treaty with Hungary in the wake of Budapest's decision to block the European Union's implementation of a new, 15% global minimum tax.

A Treasury spokesperson said that since Hungary lowered its corporate tax rate to 9% - less than half the 21% U.S. rate - the tax treaty unilaterally benefits Hungary.

"The benefits are no longer reciprocal - with a significant loss of potential revenues to the United States and little in return for U.S. business and investment in Hungary."

The timing of the termination following years of U.S. concerns about the treaty suggests that Treasury is using it to try to pressure Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban to agree to implement the 15% global minimum tax agreed by nearly 140 countries.

Affirming the Hungarian government's position, Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto said that the global minimum tax would ruin Europe's competitiveness and endanger jobs in Hungary.

"Based on all this - no matter how hard the pressure is on us - we obviously do not support the introduction of the global minimum tax in Europe," he said in a Facebook post on Saturday. "And we continue our professional consultations on tax issues with our Republican friends."

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: europe; hungary; neoconspunishhungary; neoconsversushungary; taxes
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1 posted on 07/09/2022 7:48:00 AM PDT by Right Wing Vegan
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Time to move back to grandpa’s home village


2 posted on 07/09/2022 7:49:18 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

Our Communist DC Government wants a ‘global tax?’ Is the for Climate Change? WTH?


3 posted on 07/09/2022 7:53:05 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is already under the tent.)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Eastern Europe countries are acting smarter by reducing corporate taxes. They have lived under communist system and know very well the difference between socialism/communism versus benefits of capitalism. Corporation do not pay taxes. They simply pass them on to consumers or buyers of their services.


4 posted on 07/09/2022 7:53:38 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/DeSantis & MAGA! are the only way to keep USA viable. Are so many somany)
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To: Right Wing Vegan
A Treasury spokesperson said that since Hungary lowered its corporate tax rate to 9% - less than half the 21% U.S. rate - the tax treaty unilaterally benefits Hungary.

Isn’t the obvious then that other countries match Hungary’s tax rate?

But heavens, no! That means the NEVER greedy governments would have to do with less. Remember, only corporations and individuals and be “greedy.”

This global minimum tax is an imminent disaster. The only winners will be the worldwide controlling elites.

5 posted on 07/09/2022 8:05:30 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“...see whether we in our day and generation may not perform something worthy to be remembered.”)
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To: entropy12
Corporation do not pay taxes. They simply pass them on to consumers or buyers of their services.

I wish people would stop posting this nonsense on FR. Corporations certainly do pass along taxes related to their operations — e.g., payroll taxes, sales taxes on materials, property taxes on their facilities, etc.

But the “corporate taxes” referenced here are taxes on corporate PROFITS … which are computed after all the company’s revenues and costs are already established. How the heck does a corporation like Ford pass along this tax to its customers? Does it send a separate bill to everyone who bought a new Ford the prior year?

6 posted on 07/09/2022 8:06:34 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: Right Wing Vegan

I wasn’t aware a regulatory body had the power to break an international treaty.

This is BIDEN doing this, breaking a long standing and congressional approved treaty to serve a nationalist purpose.

I eagerly await the handwringing and pearl clutching from our main stream media about this blatant disregard for world order and trying to destroy the US to support Russian goals (yeah, who’m I kidding)


7 posted on 07/09/2022 8:08:05 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Hungary’s problem is that it refuses to lie like other countries do.

For example, both China and India have signed on to this tax scheme. But who in their right mind believes that they will play by the rules?

Taxes they collect could be quietly rebated back to the companies. Or maybe the right tax won’t even be collected in the first place. Just record that it was. Who’s gonna check?

This regulation will do nothing more than make honest first-world countries even less competitive than they already are.


8 posted on 07/09/2022 8:09:57 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real )
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To: Bulwyf
Time to move back to grandpa’s home village

I feel the sentiment, and only wish that our grandfather's villages can come back to the US and clean house. We who remain of our heritages can only do the best we can here against these degenerate commy traitor NWO hordes.

9 posted on 07/09/2022 8:12:11 AM PDT by Right Wing Vegan (Pot legalization licenses every degenerate pothead piece of trash to force drug neighbors.)
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To: Bulwyf

grandfathers’ , that is.


10 posted on 07/09/2022 8:13:41 AM PDT by Right Wing Vegan (Pot legalization licenses every degenerate pothead piece of trash to force drug neighbors.)
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To: Alberta's Child

That’s one of the variables you use when setting pricing.


11 posted on 07/09/2022 8:21:56 AM PDT by curious7
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To: Right Wing Vegan
Taxation without representation full circle.

How ya feel about that, Duhmerica?

12 posted on 07/09/2022 8:27:38 AM PDT by MurrietaMadman (The Gates of hell shall not prevail against you)
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To: Bulwyf

1979,
That was till the communist era.
So they terminated some communist era treaty. Big deal!


13 posted on 07/09/2022 8:30:22 AM PDT by AZJeep
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To: Skywise
I wasn’t aware a regulatory body had the power to break an international treaty.

They don't have the authority to do it, but they do seem to have the power to do it.

14 posted on 07/09/2022 8:31:18 AM PDT by cockroach_magoo
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To: entropy12

Corp most certainly do pay taxes


15 posted on 07/09/2022 8:31:22 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!you)
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To: Right Wing Vegan
The latest really bad idea is for a global minimum corporate tax rate. It will take away much of the right of people in sovereign countries to decide on their own tax structure and rates.

All aboard the global minimum tax charade

16 posted on 07/09/2022 8:34:28 AM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Government, whether here or there, always want more. They want more control and more of the productive sector’s money. While government actually serves small purposes, it is by its very nature insatiable, and therefore should be kept as small as possible. Government is the least efficient and productive user of resources ever conceived by man and should have to get by with as little as possible. If you have a malignant tumor do you wish it to grow?


17 posted on 07/09/2022 8:38:30 AM PDT by Rlsau1
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To: Alberta's Child

—> But the “corporate taxes” referenced here are taxes on corporate PROFITS … which are computed after all the company’s revenues and costs are already established. How the heck does a corporation like Ford pass along this tax to its customers? Does it send a separate bill to everyone who bought a new Ford the prior year?

It is simple to understand - especially if you’ve wrestled through this in the real world…

In your illustration, Ford wold evaluate the result of an increase in corporate taxes.

Businesses look at the entire cost of doing business, including the cost of taxes of all kinds.

If the business is unable to be profitable enough to make the risks of business acceptable (going forward), it has choices:

1. Raise prices on goods or services - happening now with many categories

2. Cut costs through innovation, reducing fixed costs like payroll, shrinkflation (smaller packages at same price, etc.

3. Examine tax code it exists under currently for creative ways to save on taxes

4. Change tax jurisdictions to a more favorable one, or combine multiple jurisdictions (like the famous Dutch/Irish sandwich to lower total taxation.

5. Change to a more friendly regulatory environment that imposes lower costs of compliance.

This covers the main approaches and is sufficient for this thread.

So you are correct that there is not a way to change the tax cost from last year.

But that misses that a responsible business will seek to achieve a better level of profit going forward.

Socialist/marxist states and institutions seek to steal greater amounts of taxation by:

Insisting every state have a minimum corporate tax so the advantage of moving to another jurisdiction is reduced dramatically.

Supporting unions that impost rules on workforce reduction

Price controls

Etc.

Why are they doing these things??

So they can steadily and certainly raise taxation under the guise of taxing big companies.

But be assured businesses can not accept total costs beyond a certain level.

These surplus costs will be passed on to the end user - consumer - or the business will cease to operate.

Best

PS - Bonus: there is a push in the capital markets for ESG investing.
Instead of a fiduciary mandate based on profit, they impose a some agenda. Any company that doesn’t meet the wood agenda is effectively denied capital and access to banking, etc. it is a way to impose the WEF Marxist agenda under the guise of professionalism… and is evil.

It is in effect, a social credit score, similar to how communist China works.

“ The ESG strategy means investing in companies that score highly on environmental and societal responsibility scales as determined by third-party, independent companies and research groups.”

- Forbes


18 posted on 07/09/2022 8:47:10 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Wood=woke

Autocorrect


19 posted on 07/09/2022 8:48:35 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: Alberta's Child
I would grant you some leeway if you just admitted that you've never operated a business enterprise.

If not, here's a suitable shovel for that bigger hole you're about to dig for yourself:


20 posted on 07/09/2022 8:49:04 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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