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Discord chat app faces moderation questions after mass shooting suspects are linked to platform
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Posted on 07/06/2022 5:25:40 PM PDT by NoLibZone

Discord chat app faces moderation questions after mass shooting suspects are linked to platform

“When we talk about people who commit these acts of violence ... it's going to be a part of this nexus,” one expert said of Discord.

The suspect in the Highland Park shooting had dedicated chat rooms on the popular social messaging platform Discord and frequented some others that trafficked in violent content despite rules meant to limit such material.

It's the second time this year Discord has come up as an application used by a suspect in a mass shooting. The man accused of killing 10 people at a Buffalo, New York, supermarket in May used the same app to document his plans for the shooting.

The app's use by such suspects raises questions about the company's moderation practices and the activity that's occurring on the millions of active servers it maintains. One expert said the platform can be a vehicle for radicalization.

“Discord reserves the right to review and remove any material on the platform," said Emerson Brooking, a senior resident at the Digital Forensic Research Lab of the Atlantic Council, a think tank based in Washington.

"But there must be a flag that draws Discord’s attention in the first place.”

Discord did not respond to requests for comment.

The 'practical limit of moderation'

Discord, originally favored by gamers but now extremely popular across nearly every online community, allows users to create private chat spaces called "servers" that can house numerous chatrooms.

Robert “Bobby” E. Crimo III, the Highland Park suspect who was arrested hours after the shooting on Monday, left a sprawling online footprint, including on Discord, YouTube, Twitter and other social platforms. Under his rap name "Awake," Crimo posted music videos on his YouTube channel that included depictions of mass murder, while on his own Discord server, Crimo shared nihilistic political memes and comments.

Crimo appears to have been active in the Discord server since late January 2021, according to chat logs archived by Unicorn Riot, a nonprofit media organization that tracks the far right. Images that were said to be screenshots of his messages appeared to show the user complaining about “commies” — short for “communists” and typically used by far-right extremists to refer to Democrats.

In a March post on a politics board in his server, Crimo posted a photo of R. Budd Dwyer, a Pennsylvania politician who fatally shot himself during a televised news conference in 1987, captioned: “I wish politicians still gave speeches like this.”

Crimo also contributed to a message board discussing graphic depictions of murder, suicide and death. His most recent post on the board last week showed a video of a beheading. Both his YouTube and Discord accounts were taken down on Monday evening.

Brooking said the Highland Park shooting highlights "the practical limit of moderation" on chat platforms like Discord.

"Crimo's posts appear to have been too context-dependent to be flagged automatically and it's unlikely that members of Crimo's Discord server found them so distasteful as to report them," he continued.

Brooking said he suspects some of Crimo's messages could have violated Discord's community guidelines, which prohibit the glorification of "violent events, the perpetrators of violent acts, or similar behaviors," but "moderators would have had to see them first."

Discord's role in the Buffalo shooting

Payton Gendron, the suspect in the Buffalo shooting, appeared to use Discord as well in the run-up to the attack on the Tops supermarket. In a 180-page diatribe that senior law enforcement officials said they believe he wrote and posted online, Gendron referred to the Discord chat platform and a community centered on guns and armor called “plate land.”

In a different Discord server, a user with the same username as the Twitch account that streamed the Buffalo attack made what appeared to be a to-do list related to the shooting.

A Discord representative said in a statement to NBC News at the time of the Buffalo shooting: “We extend our deepest sympathies to the victims and their families, and are doing everything we can to assist law enforcement in the investigation.”

In the aftermath of the Buffalo shooting, Discord said it would commit to stronger content moderation measures to prevent the spread of content related to the attack. The company also banned the suspect’s account, partnered with counterterrorism groups and removed accounts that were “creating fake Discord chat logs to trick law enforcement and media outlets,” the company said.

Discord acts as 'a means to organize'

Brooking explained that Discord can be a “pathway of radicalization” for users, particularly those tapped into far-right online communities.

"When we talk about people who commit these acts of violence ... it's going to be a part of this nexus," Brooking said of Discord. "Many far-right communities turn to Discord as a means to organize."

In 2017, the company banned some of the largest far-right Discord communities following a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, that killed one person and injured dozens — eliminating one of the movement's most important means of communications.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: atlanticcouncil; chicago; discord; facebook; highlandpark; illinois; massshooters; socialmedia; twitter

1 posted on 07/06/2022 5:25:40 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

Not advocating or suggesting, but if I were planning a political uprising I might use a private chat room (No record of conversations is kept) in a MMOG as a way to communicate.


2 posted on 07/06/2022 5:32:38 PM PDT by Fai Mao
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To: NoLibZone

No mention that a suspected government actor was egging the Buffalo shooter on.


3 posted on 07/06/2022 5:42:25 PM PDT by Revel
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To: NoLibZone

The shooters are also linked to Facebook and Twitter. Funny how this isn’t the focus of the article.


4 posted on 07/06/2022 5:51:33 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis )
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How on earth did shooters get it done before Discord?


5 posted on 07/06/2022 5:54:37 PM PDT by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: NoLibZone

Discord has already been going after conservatives. Mass shooter Lefties? Not so much.


6 posted on 07/06/2022 6:06:53 PM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: Fai Mao

Matrix protocol. Element is the most popular Matrix client but there are others. Getting your own hosting and running it yourself is best but a little on the techie side and cheapo hosting can’t be used because you need root access so you can use the terminal - command line.

There are other protocols than Matrix.


7 posted on 07/06/2022 6:10:12 PM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: Revel
I believe that "retired" fbi agent, Armand was talking to the Uvalde shooter, too, on Discord.

Maybe talking to tholis one, too, or maybe it was the fbi agent that accompanied the Garland, TX jihadi?

8 posted on 07/06/2022 6:10:38 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: NoLibZone
"Unicorn Riot, a nonprofit media organization that tracks the far right. Images that were said to be screenshots of his messages appeared to show the user complaining about “commies” — short for “communists” and typically used by far-right extremists to refer to Democrats.
9 posted on 07/06/2022 6:17:09 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: NoLibZone

Hail Eris!

There’s a human impulse to want to tear everything down and rebuild it.

But it’s fed by a satanic force that wants to destroy the good and replace it with a dominion over the earth.

Repeat: satanic


10 posted on 07/06/2022 7:54:44 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: NoLibZone
Unicorn Riot, a nonprofit media organization that tracks the far right. Images that were said to be screenshots of his messages appeared to show the user complaining about “commies” — short for “communists” and typically used by far-right extremists to refer to Democrats."

NBC, a Demonrat mouthpiece, trying to make the pink and green haired, antifatard, with communist tattoes to be "right wing".

11 posted on 07/06/2022 11:12:51 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: Pollard

‘element’ looks like a direct ui rip-off of discord


12 posted on 07/07/2022 12:01:46 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: NoLibZone

Unicorn Riot’s “findings” were his alleged comments while playing a role in a game. Anyone who plays games a lot plays different roles in every game. Like chess, players switch sides, or colors. In more elaborate games, like when playing RISK in the good old days before online games, or when playing Axis and Allies, players think it is interesting to take turns playing as a different country, because the challenges are different. When you play Russia, the UK, Japan, Australia, the US, or Germany, it is part of the banter to try to talk and act like the stereotype.


13 posted on 07/07/2022 12:23:31 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: NoLibZone

No mention of where far-left people are radicalized. Mainly because... it isn’t just on discord but everywhere, especially in schools.


14 posted on 07/07/2022 12:27:16 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: thegagline

Also omitted is how much tiktok and anime these losers view.


15 posted on 07/07/2022 12:28:25 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: NoLibZone
Crimo appears to have been active in the Discord server since late January 2021, according to chat logs archived by Unicorn Riot, a nonprofit [far, far left] media organization that tracks the far right. [and everyone to their right, which is...everyone who isn't a leftwing extrenist.]

But let me point out to the Unicorn Riot nutjobs, that Crimo had already made his suicide threat and was collecting knives and guns, and whoever reported him said they felt the whole family was in danger... in 2019. So Discord wasn't the root problem, if it had anything to do with it at all.

Images that were said to be screenshots of his messages appeared to show the user complaining about “commies” — short for “communists” and typically used by far-right extremists [realists] to refer to [neo]Democrats

16 posted on 07/07/2022 12:38:41 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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