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From Tomorrow, All New Vehicles in the EU Will Have Surveillance Black Boxes
Summit News ^ | 5 July, 2022 | Paul Joseph Watson

Posted on 07/05/2022 6:55:46 AM PDT by george76

Greasing the skids for speed-limiting technology..

From tomorrow, all new vehicles sold in the EU will have mandatory black boxes fitted that record technical data and will be accessible by authorities, greasing the skids for surveillance-powered speed limiting technology.

While for the time being, drivers can opt-out of using the feature, privacy advocates fear the technology will become mandatory once it is properly rolled out.

Back in 2019, the European Transport Safety Council (ETSC) announced that July 6 would mark the day when all car manufacturers would be forced to fit new models with a system that keeps track of technical data.

The data recorded will include “the vehicle’s speed, braking, steering wheel angle, its incline on the road, and whether the vehicle’s various safety systems were in operation, starting with seatbelts.”

Although insurance companies won’t have immediate access to the data, it will be available to law enforcement.

Authorities claim the data will be “anonymized,” meaning the information can’t be used to identify the owner of the vehicle, although only the incredibly naive would plausibly believe that.

Such systems are expected to eventually include speed-limiting technology.

As Reclaim the Net’s Didi Rankovic explains, the most common method of speed limiting technology is Intelligent Speed Assistant (ISA).

“ISA works using GPS data alone, cameras for traffic sign recognition fitted to the front of the car, or a combination of the two. A speed limiter affects the engine power and in that way decreases speed.”

“Like the name suggests, speed limiters are designed to prevent drivers from exceeding certain speed limits, and prompt them via audio, visual, and haptic warnings until they “obey” and slow down.”

For decades, governments have been pushing for all cars to be fitted with black boxes that track location data.

The ultimate dystopian scenario involves giving police the power to utilize similar technology to completely disable the functioning of a vehicle if the driver is deemed to have committed an infraction.

This doesn’t need to be a criminal offense, if the pursuit of social credit score schemes continues to become more invasive, it would eventually be used as a form of punishment for everything from unpaid utility bills to offensive comments posted on social media.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: automotive; black; blackboxes; boxes; europe
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1 posted on 07/05/2022 6:55:46 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Uh, don’t remember when, but nearly all newer vehicles have had them for years. Anyone? Bueller?


2 posted on 07/05/2022 6:57:57 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: george76

I wonder if anyone would be willing to stake their life on the data being anonymized? The first time it turns out a specific dataset can be associated with a specific vehicle and/or driver, that person willingly submits to being executed - because he or she is so sure that won’t, can’t, and couldn’t ever happen.


3 posted on 07/05/2022 6:58:24 AM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: george76

I hate to break it to you, but this isn’t anything new.

“Black boxes” have been mandated in the United States on all new vehicles since 2014.


4 posted on 07/05/2022 6:59:27 AM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: george76
speed limiters are designed to prevent drivers from exceeding certain speed limits, and prompt them via audio, visual, and haptic warnings

This has been around for a while, including in the US. My car flashes the speed limit on the windshield. It has a ways to go before it works. It tells me that the speed on my residential neighborhood street is 100 mph.

5 posted on 07/05/2022 7:00:34 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: rktman

Yep. All new vehicles in the US since 2014.

Many vehicles before that have them too.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/fmvss/EDRFinalRule_Aug2006.pdf


6 posted on 07/05/2022 7:01:10 AM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: george76

But I want a Pink Box ‘cause I support women’s rights and abortion.

And we definitely need rainbow boxes for the LGBLSMFT community or it’s homophobic!


7 posted on 07/05/2022 7:01:10 AM PDT by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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To: george76

Liberal World Order starts


8 posted on 07/05/2022 7:04:40 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: george76

But it is a “right-wing conspiracy theory” to suggest that we are moving in the direction of a totalitarian surveillance state.


9 posted on 07/05/2022 7:06:13 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: george76

It’s not just about speed. It’s about monitoring the surroundings wherever the vehicle goes.


10 posted on 07/05/2022 7:06:18 AM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: rktman
It isn't all bad. I installed one of those devices for a reduction in my insurance rate.

A cop cited me for running a stop sign. When I took it to traffic court, I brought a print-out of the device from the trip in question that proved that I did, indeed, stop.

The cop was just hiding at a spot where he couldn't see the stop and assumed I didn't. It was worth the time going just to see the jagoff get his due in front of the judge.

11 posted on 07/05/2022 7:10:06 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: george76
No 4th Amendment in Europe.
12 posted on 07/05/2022 7:10:54 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Ballots)
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To: george76

Remember Carter’s 55 mph? Locked thermostats in plants, and stores. Those are back. I usually freeze when I grocery shop, and now end up sweating. $10 gas will impact everyone working, as even if you have transportation, it’s dangerous. I live rurally, you walk, bike or drive.


13 posted on 07/05/2022 7:11:29 AM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: george76

New headline

Starting tomorrow, all new vehicles will have devices that allow big brother to spy on you


14 posted on 07/05/2022 7:13:03 AM PDT by Bob434 (.)
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To: rktman

Since about 2000, they all have some sort of data recorder, due to all the frivolous lawsuits filed against carmakers. However, unlike this system, the ones already in cars were not remotely accessible and had to be sent back to the carmaker to have their data retrieved.


15 posted on 07/05/2022 7:17:16 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: george76

The Beast comith.


16 posted on 07/05/2022 7:20:32 AM PDT by Revel
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To: george76

If your car has a center screen with navigation capabilities, your car already has tracking and can be found by any government. Even if you do not purchase the navigation your car still records where it is. And if your car has driver assist capabilities like lane assist and traffic avoidance then your car can be remotely controlled and even stopped. The speed can be limited to the legal speed. This exists in America right now, in cars being sold right now. Tesla’s are fully controllable by Tesla. And the government monitors Tesla to see how they can plug into their system.

But don’t worry. The government already knows where you are. They know how fast you are going. They know who you are with and who you talk to. You have a phone. And that gives them everything. They don’t need your car except to stop it when they want.


17 posted on 07/05/2022 7:20:34 AM PDT by poinq
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To: rktman

US vehicles have an infotainment system. You can pay a subscription for the services such as On-Star and you can be remotely tracked by the company that can communicate with your vehicle or vice versa. Some see this as a convenience and safety feature - others see it as a curse.

The “infotainment system” or whatever you call it is a computer with memory inside the vehicle that records all of the data that could by transmitted by your vehicle if you subscribed to the service. The information is retained inside your vehicle so in a sense it IS a “black box” in that law enforcement could (with a warrant) access that memory and download the data.

This is now a pretty regular step in a fatal accident investigation if the vehicle is newer.

In an ideal world this might be a convenience but the surveillance state repercussions and the potential abuses by the nanny state are troubling - i.e. due to global warming and energy shortages your vehicle will NOT be allowed to exceed 55mph or maybe your car can only operate so many hours a week because of “equality”.

Before you get mad or worked up about this please keep in mind that if you have a “smart phone” you are already willingly generating most of this data absent the specific actions recorded by your vehicle via google, apple, etc etc.


18 posted on 07/05/2022 7:25:01 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: Vigilanteman
"The cop was just deliberatly hiding at a spot where he couldn't see the stop and assumed I didn't."

There, fixed it for you. The last time I was in PA, the exits were peppered with menacing signs to let you know the cops were going to kick your ass if you stepped out of line even a little. You have a cop problem in PA, and if you think these devices will always be used for your, benefit, you are deluded.
19 posted on 07/05/2022 7:34:00 AM PDT by beef (Let’s go Baizuo!)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

It seems to be on our street. We got new 25mph speed limit signs installed. Turns out it acted like a challenge. And it ain’t just kids doing the speeding. It used to be a dead end but got tied into a new subdivision. 😠


20 posted on 07/05/2022 7:34:23 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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