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Does Lithuania Want To Start A War With Russia?
The American Conservative ^ | JUNE 30, 2022| | Doug Bandow

Posted on 07/01/2022 11:21:24 AM PDT by Mount Athos

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To: rfp1234

So i guess Peter Sellers was a globohomo groomer eh?


41 posted on 07/01/2022 12:14:15 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: katie didit

The “Biden swine” spent all last year colluding with Russia on a new Iran deal and pretty much ignoring Ukraine. That’s an odd way to “start a war” with Russia.


42 posted on 07/01/2022 12:17:04 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Mount Athos

All other NATO countries are NOT obligated to come to their defense.

” will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.”

You are required to take action you “deem necessary”. That can be anything from a letter of protest, up to nuclear war.


43 posted on 07/01/2022 12:28:57 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Mount Athos
"So if someone blocked all sea traffic into US ports, you wouldn’t consider that a blockade since we could still fly cargo in?"

Are you saying Lithuania is blocking the Kaliningrad sea port? If so, that is aggression by Lithuania. That would be like Canada blocking US sea traffic from the lower 48 to Alaska. Do you have a source for that?

44 posted on 07/01/2022 12:41:16 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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To: Mount Athos

Who in his right mind would trust a treaty signed by Russia? Such a treaty isn’t worth the paper it is written on. Russians are pathological liars. Lying is a national sport in Russia.

Seriously, do you really believe that no Freepers know anything about the history of Eastern Europe? The Lithuanians know their history. For your information (but you probably know that), Russia has always had a tyrannical government, it has no tradition of free political institutions. I suppose the Provisional government in 1917 was an exception, but it wasn’t really in control and didn’t last long. Or we can say that Russia is either full of tyranny, or full of chaos.

Russia hasn’t abandoned its imperial ambitions either. It wants to subjugate the neighboring nations. The Russians openly say that the Ukrainians aren’t a nation. Why shouldn’t we call what Russia is doing in Ukraine genocide? Ukraine isn’t the only Russian target. The Russian propagandists want to de-nazify (= attack with the Russian military) Poland and the Baltic states as well.

It is really puzzling that some Freepers, who supposedly love the concept of limited government invented by the Founding Fathers, defend Russian despotic imperialism.


45 posted on 07/01/2022 12:44:42 PM PDT by Czech_Occidentalist
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To: Mount Athos

It’s not a blockade; it’s a denial of access to Lithuanian sovereign territory.

Also; the baltics have the same historic importance to Russia as the Ukraine (Georgia/Poland/Romania//Moldova/Kahzikstan/Crimia). It’s one of 9 passes into the Russian heartland that have been used to invade Russia 55 times). Russia needs to control these passes to defend Moscow.


46 posted on 07/01/2022 12:46:17 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Jim W N

“Wait a minute. I thought the Lithuania was sunk by the Germans on May 7, 1915...”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

No, that was the Beatlemania...


47 posted on 07/01/2022 12:55:56 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Eccl 10:2

Sunk along with Sgt. Pepper I suppose...


48 posted on 07/01/2022 12:59:40 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Vermont Lt

Hey man, I’ve been on FR for a long time and I’ve seen some extremely heated debates and fights on here but I’ve never seen one Freeper wish another’s family to be bombed. You’re a good poster here and better than that.


49 posted on 07/01/2022 1:11:59 PM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: Czech_Occidentalist

Lying is a national sport in Russia.


Of course. Lying and cheating are in the very fabric of Russian culture. You’d be hard pressed to find a more immoral place on this planet. That’s what makes it so hilarious when the Kremlin’s useful idiots sing of the praises of Putin as a defender of Christendom.


50 posted on 07/01/2022 1:22:14 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Mount Athos
It isn't a blockade. They don't want a war.

I suppose if Russia goes crazy, Kaliningrad might go it alone as another Baltic State in the EU, Russia's Taiwan.

I wouldn't want the Germans getting it back. That's reopens too many cans of worms.

51 posted on 07/01/2022 1:28:21 PM PDT by x
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To: Tench_Coxe; Mount Athos
I can point out a handful of posters on this site that seem pretty eager to have Americans dying for a country hardly anyone can find on a map.

It's a lot more than a handful; the number of people ready & willing to risk nuclear war is probably lower, but still high enough that you wonder where they're buying their "recreationals"...

;>)

52 posted on 07/01/2022 1:30:58 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: Mount Athos
Does Lithuania Want To Start A War With Russia?

No! The US wants Lithuania to Start a War with Russia!

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB10014.html
53 posted on 07/01/2022 1:33:29 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: lodi90
That’s what makes it so hilarious when the Kremlin’s useful idiots sing of the praises of Putin as a defender of Christendom.

You’re just mad because Russia protects children from homosexual predators and arrests pedophiles.
54 posted on 07/01/2022 1:35:57 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Mount Athos

They want a few $Billion.

They have watched the game played elsewhere.


55 posted on 07/01/2022 1:43:20 PM PDT by PGR88 (<i>)
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To: Mount Athos
So if someone blocked all sea traffic into US ports, you wouldn’t consider that a blockade since we could still fly cargo in?>

That's a fake strawman argument. The restrictions on transit are for materials and goods subject to international bans.

The USA already does that for a lot of things. Do you think Iranian ships are welcome to pull into the port of Newark and unload machine guns, mortars, and high explosives to hand out to their friends? Can a drug gang from overseas ship drugs through the USA to another destination in spite of US law? Can a pimp from Thailand take a dozen girls through the LA airport on the way to some other country so they can do their work there? Can somebody ship elephant tusks through New York city on their way to China?

The answer is no to all those situations because nations regularly apply limitations to what can happen in their borders, and following international sanctions is one thing that most countries do.

Don't be a dunce.

56 posted on 07/01/2022 1:46:10 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Mount Athos
a treaty guaranteeing uninterrupted transit for its goods

You seem to be missing the part about transit of goods which are currently under international embargo.

Do you really think that, for example, the treaty allows Russian human traffickers to load up a truck with teenage girls in the back and drive it to Kalingrad for the amusement of some Russian pervert? Of course not, that would be idiotic.

The treaty is for goods that are normally allowed, not goods that are for whatever reason under some kind of embargo or illegal status.

57 posted on 07/01/2022 1:50:57 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Levy78
I’ve never seen one Freeper wish another’s family to be bombed

You must not have seen the hundreds of posts by the pro-Putin crowd here celebrating and defending the attacks in Ukraine by their favorite guy's army.

When you show them a picture of a dead woman and her child they are glad since any Ukrainian is a "nazi".

Sorry, but the Putin propaganda team is busy supporting a government that is launching missiles at supermarkets and apartment buildings on a daily basis, and sending in their army with insufficient discipline to prevent mass executions, rapes of young women, torture of civilians, and rampant looting. Hard to have much sympathy for them.

58 posted on 07/01/2022 1:57:04 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Jan_Sobieski
You’re just mad because Russia protects children from homosexual predators and arrests pedophiles.

Except they don't. Even apart from Putin's bizarre desires Russian social services do little to protect children from abuse.


59 posted on 07/01/2022 2:00:11 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Vermont Lt

The Putin cultists will be along shortly. For a good laugh.


60 posted on 07/01/2022 2:10:43 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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