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Does Lithuania Want To Start A War With Russia?
The American Conservative ^ | JUNE 30, 2022| | Doug Bandow

Posted on 07/01/2022 11:21:24 AM PDT by Mount Athos

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To: AZJeep

You’re a special kind of stupid if you think that is relevant to this discussion


21 posted on 07/01/2022 11:46:14 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

Sort of like the Dutchy of Grand Fenwick did with the U.S.?


22 posted on 07/01/2022 11:47:06 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: Mount Athos
[...] is now enforcing a blockade of sorts against Russia through Kaliningrad [...]

Faulty premise (Equivocation Fallacy) in very first sentence! FAIL!

Not allowing someone to traipse through your living room can hardly be called a "blockade!"

As a sovereign state, Lithuania is fully within its rights to prohibit the transit of select Russian goods across its territory.

Regards,

23 posted on 07/01/2022 11:53:10 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Mount Athos

No, I think, I just touch your sensitive spot!
Moskal.


24 posted on 07/01/2022 11:54:25 AM PDT by AZJeep
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To: Mount Athos

[How enthusiastic are Americans about dying for a country hardly anyone can find on a map?]


The average person couldn’t find Britain on a map. When the time came, they saddled up anyway. Not because Britain was any particular prize, but because German military momentum threatened to give it control of both Europe and Asia.

Russia starts from a position of great advantage. It is already 10x the size of the German empire in Europe when FDR declared war on Germany. If Russia were the size of Germany today (i.e. 1/50 its present size), no one would care. But Russia is 70% the size of the NATO *combined*. That alone makes it extremely threatening, especially given Russia alone is 4x the size of the EU. Its proximity to important European capitals like Paris and Berlin, along with much of Europe’s industrial capacity, makes it essential that Russia be prevented from achieving its goals in Ukraine.


25 posted on 07/01/2022 11:54:27 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Mount Athos; Vermont Lt
So if someone blocked all sea traffic into US ports, you wouldn’t consider that a blockade since we could still fly cargo in?

If that someone exercised sovereign control over those sea lanes - but they don't!

Lithuania is interdicting the transport of select sanctioned items across its sovereign territory.

Equivocation Fallacy! FAIL!

Regards,

26 posted on 07/01/2022 11:55:54 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Lithuania’s independence was recognized by Russia in 1993, under the condition of the signing of a treaty guaranteeing uninterrupted transit for its goods between the main part of Russia and Kaliningrad.

See the treaty that Lithuania signed here on the UN website:

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%201831/volume-1831-I-31342-English.pdf


27 posted on 07/01/2022 11:57:03 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

“In NATO the smallest members tend to be the most aggressive. It’s probably because they know they wouldn’t be called on to fight any wars they caused”

Like your woman running her mouth when the Hells Angels walk in, and wanting you to fight the fight she starts.


28 posted on 07/01/2022 12:00:10 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Mount Athos

A blockade is an act of war...


There is no blockade. Russia is free to supply Kaliningrad by sea and air.


29 posted on 07/01/2022 12:03:04 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Vermont Lt

It’s not a blockade.

Once again the Russians and their FRminions are being drama queens.


Agree. The same folks who cheer on Russia’s genocide and mass murder in Ukraine are gaslighting over this nothing burger. Pathetic, really.


30 posted on 07/01/2022 12:04:37 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

I see.

So if someone blockade all sea traffic to the USA< you would not consider that a blockade since the USA can still be supplied by planes.

Or if someone blockade all plane traffic to the USA, you would not consider that a blockade since the USA could still be supplied by sea.

That is NOT how the word blockade has been used throughout history...


31 posted on 07/01/2022 12:04:51 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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From historical reasons, which Putin so loves, Russia is about tenth in line for Kaliningrad.

After (not in order) Lithuania and Latvia (original inhabitants), Germany, Poland, Czechia and Sovereign Order of German Knights.
Even Sweden and Denmark have more rights to this area than Russia!
Please, Russians, evacuate this area ASAP!
You would not like to disappoint your leader, who surely like the history!


32 posted on 07/01/2022 12:05:37 PM PDT by AZJeep
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To: Mount Athos
See the treaty that Lithuania signed here on the UN website:

It is not incumbent upon Lithuania to uphold that treaty if Russia abrogates other treaties and begins comporting itself like Hitler, invading neighboring countries, grabbing land, and rocket-bombing civilian population centers.

Russia has already made itself a leper in the international community. How can one possibly lament Russia being denied the privilege of transiting neighboring countries while it is busy *ss-raping one of them?

Regards,

33 posted on 07/01/2022 12:05:39 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: lodi90

Maybe you can report this author from the American Conservative for his treasonous thinking.

A real patriot would have no concerns at all about an expanding or escalating war. The deeper it goes the better right? If it results in far more people dying all good you say. Why not send Americans to die for a NATO tripwire, that’s what they signed up for, is that the thinking


34 posted on 07/01/2022 12:07:50 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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So if someone blockade all sea traffic to the USA< you would not consider that a blockade since the USA can still be supplied by planes.

You are apparently unable to distinguish between the high seas, which can be freely traversed by all nations, and sovereign territory, which a nation is not obliged to place at the disposal of other parties for the transit of contraband.

Regards,

35 posted on 07/01/2022 12:09:06 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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36 posted on 07/01/2022 12:09:09 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: Jim W N

That is Correct Sir!


37 posted on 07/01/2022 12:10:41 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: rfp1234

Great movie


38 posted on 07/01/2022 12:10:46 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: alexander_busek

You’ve hit on the key point. Putinists and their useful idiots do not believe Lithuania has any sovereign territory. Russia is free to rape and murder their neighbors at their leisure.


39 posted on 07/01/2022 12:10:59 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Mount Athos

A Good piece from American Conservative.

Lithuania may not want to start a war with Russia but the Biden swine do. It will cost us dearly in the end and come back to haunt us. If only...


40 posted on 07/01/2022 12:13:37 PM PDT by katie didit
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