Posted on 07/01/2022 11:21:24 AM PDT by Mount Athos
Revolutions have consequences. Overthrowing a democratically elected president that strongly represents ~50% of the nation caused oblast secession. East and south Ukraine were fed up! After 8 years of being shelled by Kiev, they asked for help from Russia. Do you blame them?
Engaging with you fools is silly.
I enjoy seeing Russians getting blown up. They have caused more heartache in the past 100 years than any other people on earth.
We would all be better off with Russia as a second rate gas station.
Dude of course Russia would be better off as a gas station. We need the gas! So end the sanctions and let the gas flow! The WEST is preventing Russia from being a “gas station”. Let them have Donetsk and Estern Ukraine and let the fuel and food flow. There is no other rational option.
Sure there is. Russia can declare a ceasefire, and leave. Then they cab commit $20 a barrel from every drop they sell for the reconstruction of the damage they’ve caused.
They they could dissolve their government, boot out the criminals, and rejoin the world as civilized people.
But we know none of that is going to happen. So, we will rejoice with the destruction of another generation of Russian conscripts.
Oh get real. Russia cannot simply withdraw, you know darn well that is no option at all. NATO on their doorstep is a nonstarter, and 100% a provocation by the West. Both sides - us and them- need a buffer state in between and the Ukraine is ideal. It was fulfilling exactly that function. Let Ukraine be a neutral buffer state and end this war now. Yea I know you’re willing to fight to the last drop of Ukrainian blood but maybe we should try sparing their lives instead ?
Yeah…now NATO is going to pick up another thousand miles of border with NATO.
Ukraine was never getting into NATO. If you think that you have no idea what it takes to get into NATO.
Nope, Ukraine has gas and wheat. That’s what Russia wants.
They are the hun. They need to be destroyed and sent back to the forests.
Too late to send them back to the forests. Nukes remember? The time for that was 1945. But Americans were already Commie-infiltrated. It is what it is. You have to live with a resurgent Russia. Minimize the harm to the West and get on with your life. Ukraine isn’t the West, in case you need reminding.
The real danger to you and me is the fascist Western government-tech-homo- military-medical complex. Fight for our rights here at home. Pity about the Ukraine, my wife is half Ukrainian, friends and relatives are Ukrainian. It’s a tragedy but going to war with Russia will multiply that tragedy manifold without end.
So, we should have let Russia overrun Ukraine in March. Got it.
I have never suggested sending troops. But arms? We should send them whatever they can use. What folks don’t understand is that equipment was for use against Russia anyway. I am all for using it to kill Russian invaders without lifting American fingers.
Russia is the aggressor. They have been for decades. They endanger the rest of (somewhat) civilized Europe. We can stop them in Ukraine. Or we can stop them outside Warsaw.
Russia has been the cause of tens of millions of lives over the past 100 years. It’s time for them to stop.
No not the whole of Ukraine. Sending in weapons and aid to prevent that made sense. Actually negotiating with Russia years ago might have prevented the whole thing! Having said that we are at a point where the Donbas is done, as was Crimea in 2014.
Yes Russia is an aggressor, we have to deal with aggressors in a reasonable manner. Russia isn’t Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan, it’s a rational actor and can be dealt with without war. It is a nuclear power so NO we cannot have a war with them. Just as we cannot have a war with China, unless the tranny US navy wants to go to the bottom of the South China Sea but that’s another story.
Let it go. We cannot win. Actually we cannot even survive economically, the West is doomed and America is no longer a superpower. Realpolitik is the order of the day. Compromise and settle in our own best interests.
[Mt. Athos thread article by Doug Bandow] Lithuania ... "is now enforcing a blockade of sorts against Russia.[Mt. Athos #71] A blockade is an act of war...
[Mt. Athos #71] You must not be a lawyer, because the definitions you posted prove that your conception of a what a blockade must be is totally wrong.
[Mt. Athos #73] You’re some kind of autist retard pulling out a law dictionary on a forum discussion, when you know damn well that its definitions aren’t the only valid usage of words.
The Oxford New American Dictionary defines of sorts as "informal, of an atypical and typically inferior type: the training camp actually became a tourist attraction of sorts."
This particular blockade of sorts is not really a blockade, and is not an act of war. It is was an economic sanction which NATO has thoughtfully reconsidered.
So there is not really a blockade, and there is not really a war. And it follows that nobody really violated any international law, or committed an act of war.
A legal definition applies when discussing a term such as a blockade of sorts, and observing that an actual blockade is an act of war.
The bastardized usage is like stating we waged a war on terrorism, or with al Qaeda. It was not a real war, and the captured members of al Qaeda did not become prisoners of war.
You must be a special kind of lawyer. Thank you for your clarification that you did not mean to imply you referred to an actual blockade or an actual act of war. Your usage was more akin to the war on poverty.
They dropped the blockade yesterday.
It seems Germany was nervous about escalation while their troops were in Lithuania.
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