Posted on 06/26/2022 1:45:29 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Russian INFORMATION, not propaganda has been spot on both from the Russian government and from the pro-Russian telegram channels and they are growing exponentially as a result. They have been excellent sources of getting at the truth.
Ukrainian government sources and U.S. Deep State media sources are in every instance pure propaganda. Though I do have to give credit to some of the pro-Ukrainian telegram channels. They have kept me updated on every lying, sneaking, deceitful and brutal thing going on in the OP (Office of the President.)
I’ve read your posts...they literally drip bias which probably is why you never reach the truth.
Comparing Putin to Adolph is a cheap debating trick—college sophomore stuff—nothing to do with the reality on the ground.
It is time for the adults to arrive and cut a deal.
Shouldn’t you be out gathering wood for the winter Wojo?
There was a way: negotiate a cease-fire two months ago as Trump was urging. But no, everyone followed the war propaganda and believed Ukraine was winning.
Just hoping that Putin channels his inner Adolph and eats bullet in his bunker soon ...........
Won’t solve any problems—the folks in waiting will make Putin look like a flower child by comparison.
Zelensky is pulling a Napoleon after getting his ass kicked by Russia. Retreat, and retreat fast.
The brutality committed by Ukrainian mobsters to the Russian speaking people in the Donbas went unreported and unresponeded to by even Trump.
Russia is serious about this and the West now gets it. Zelensky is on his own......the entire economy of Ukraine is in the tank. Fake printed dollars from the west is all that’s holding it together along with some Russian money for oil and gas
that flows thru Ukraine to Poland and Germany.
“There’s got to be a way to make them stop”
I’ve been watching the men who study and write about international politics and the prevailing opinion in this group is peace at any cost. Ukraine has to negotiate a settlement that doesn’t “humiliate” Putin. (The thing they seem to universally share is they are at least as old as dirt. Us old guys don’t want any shake-ups.)
Then I was listening to this guy, see link. His theory, which I think is more likely than any other explanation I’ve seen, is that Putin needs the war to survive in power. If he’s correct, then Ukraine might negotiate a settlement that lasts long enough for Putin to force his military to recover and rearm. Putin may also find a way to limit the top to bottom pilfering that has created Oligarchs and rich maintenance men who are stealing parts from parked tanks. But Putin will continue to attack and absorb SOMEBODY because he must in order to remain in power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc0fxWT0FV4&t=312s
Although I have ceased watching the blow by blow, it seems that Putin has obtained his original stated objectives. He has captured the two sepratist areas that were already lost to Ukraine pretty much any way.
The nature of the war has changed with Ukraine doing some pretty serious damage to targets within Russia and on the Black Sea. Today we learn of the resumption of russia targeting Kyiv.
The solution is for Ukraine to cease actions in Russia, formally relinquish the two territories in exchange for reparations to rebuild the areas Russia destroyed. Russia will get the teo territories and if reparations are paid, an end to sanctions.
Or something along those lines.
Russia apparently lacks the military resources and leadership to end the stalemate. A better armed Ukraine has the resources to damage Russia but not to end the stalemate.
You should come up with a graph of troops left fighting.
I wonder who they were targetting?
Just like the USA in its wars, dropping hellfire missiles on random buildings is pointless - and every expensive.
Its done when you get intel that a high value target is there.
Minsk Accords? Was that where, after the Maidan Coup, Ukraine promised some autonomy to the eastern, ethnic Russian states and instead, they launched a war on them? Or are you thinking of something else?
Russia Ministry of Defense
Fake : Russian Armed Forces attacked civilian targets in Kiev.
Truth : Ukrainian sources speak exclusively of a strike on a residential nine-story building. However, they do not indicate that it is precisely behind this house that the Artem defense plant is located, which produces air-to-air guided missiles and artillery shells. The photo shows what flew in the shops of the plant.
It was he, as an object of military infrastructure, that was the target, and it was already struck in April. Then the Ukrainian media also talked about a strike on a residential building - absolutely according to the same scheme as this time.
The facts of damage to the plant indicate that the strike was aimed precisely at Artem, and an air defense missile hit the nine-story building, as it happened, for example, in Odessaor in Kiev .
Channels publish videos of an air defense missile falling into residential areas. The photo with the destruction of the house shows that the damage is not only from above, but also from below the residential building, which also confirms the version of the fall. At the same time, the MO missile hits exactly the workshops of the Artem plant.
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FYI...As one of the many Bidenista/Globohomo supporters infiltrating FR, Cronos is a complete waste of time. It probably flies a Ukie flag in its front yard.
WWII was a war. This is a Russian, “Special military operation” invasion.
The Ukraine military is not crossing the border. Ukrainians are just defending their homes and families
George Washington Zalenski is such an optimist.
especially considering recent defeats in Severo,Hirske,Zolote and upcoming in L-chansk.
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Tis but a scratch!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs
Yes, have people like you stop falling for false narratives. So a solution can be found. Your almost as naive as a Democrat On the stupidest day. Which are many.
Do you think Ukraine is “winning” this war?
The pink and non-pink areas are impressive in one respect. But I don’t think it takes into consideration that if you look at the photos of cities and villages before and after you can see the destruction of Ukraine.
Secondly, they are not harvesting grain, transporting grain, manufacturing or exporting fertilizer and their natural gas, oil and shale deposits are no longer being developed.
If and when the Russians cut Odessa off from the Ukrainians, I think that a land locked Ukraine might be amenable to neutrality and an understanding of Russia’s paranoid delusion of NATO invasion.
The people that should be worried live in Romania, Poland, Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia.
They really need to read the fine print of Article 5 of the NATO agreement. There’s a real nice “catch-22” verbiage in it.
Like Yossarian said, ‘That’s some catch, that catch-22,’ he observed. ‘It’s the best there is,’ Doc Daneeka agreed.”
Helped him along a little, did it?😆
Do you mean the original Minsk ones - https://www.venice.coe.int/webforms/documents/?pdf=CDL(1994)054-e - or the terms that Ukraine were effectively coerced to sign, and which Putin unilaterally declared void in February this year?
There's a whole shopping list of stuff that not only pre-dates EuroMaidan, but is a damn sight more legally AND morally enforceabable than Minsk was.
Multiple treaties with Ukraine were terminated unilaterally by Russia in March 2014, one week after the annexation of Crimea by Russia. Including all three of the above.
Even Putin's objection to NATO expansion is based on a completely non-binding agreement made by James Baker, ratified by absolutely nobody either in the USA or in Soviet Russia. It was only ever binding on the USA and NATO while the USSR still existed, while the USSR didn't accept the sovereign independence of its constituent nation states, and Germany was partitioned.
Gorbachev said unequivocally that America fulfilled every aspect of that agreement. That agreement couldn't bind the next US President, or the presidents of Ukraine, Belarus, Russia OR ANY OTHER EX-SOVIET STATE, after they became fully independent. Not one single world leader ever ratified it, and even if they had it never stipulated what to do in the event of the USSR disbanding itself.
Again, Putin only makes a big deal of it because the non-NATO expansion thing was set up while the USSR existed, and guess what! Lukashenko's Belarus, and Putin's Russia, do not accept that the breakup of the USSR happened. They are both utterly wedded to the idea that every international agreement that even mentions an independent Ukraine is null and void because they regard the breakup of the Soviet Union as illegitimate.
The attempt to blame Schwab, or Ukraine, or talk of NATO expansion, for the last eight years of turmoil in Ukraine is misplaced.
Long before any of that, an intellectual lobby inside Russia - represented well by Putin, Dugin and Zhirinovsky but also by numerous current Duma politicians - were resolved to undo the breakup of the USSR.
They don't want communism back; they just want an ethnonationalist Rashist empire with Russia in charge and Ukraine, Poland, Moldova, Georgia, Khazakstan, Chechnya, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania etc. under its yoke.
Arguing that Putin has any moral high ground here is a bit like saying the Deep State might be doing some bad stuff, but is motivated by good intentions.
Putin and Schwab/Soros are two sides of the same coin.
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