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Texas Republicans push for a referendum to vote on the state seceding from the U.S. in 2023 at meeting that declared Biden's win illegitimate
UK Daily Mail ^ | 06/20/2022 | Emily Goodin and Paul Farrell

Posted on 06/20/2022 12:42:25 PM PDT by DFG

Texas Republicans want to hold a referendum next year to decide whether or not the state should secede from the U.S.

The party charges the state has taken its right to self-govern and calls for secession.

The demand was part of the party platform Republicans voted on at their state convention this weekend, where they also formally rejected President Joe Biden's election in 2020 as legitimate.

Under a section titled 'State Sovereignty,' the platform states: 'Pursuant to Article 1, Section 1, of the Texas Constitution, the federal government has impaired our right of local self-government. Therefore, federally mandated legislation that infringes upon the 10th Amendment rights of Texas should be ignored, opposed, refused, and nullified.

'Texas retains the right to secede from the United States, and the Texas Legislature should be called upon to pass a referendum consistent thereto.'

Texas has long pushed an independent movement, called 'Texit.'

After the area declared independence from Mexico in 1836, it was a sovereign state for nine years before it was annexed by the United States in 1845. There have been multiple secession movement since then.

Legally Texas cannot secede from the union. There has been a myth that it can because of the way it was annexed but the Congressional order of annexation merely stated Texas could - at a future date - divide itself into five states. It says nothing about leaving the union.

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TOPICS: US: Texas
KEYWORDS: secession; texas; texit; txgop
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To: bigdaddy45
Good luck funding an Air Force and Army. And since you’re on the gulf a Navy as well.

Texas' GDP is on par with Australia. Imagine what it would be if it were to free up drilling and export it to the United States.

41 posted on 06/20/2022 1:18:42 PM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: who knows what evil?
Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, Missouri and Oklahoma link up to Texas nicely...

Add a few more states, and we could just call the new country "The SEC". It just means more.

42 posted on 06/20/2022 1:20:14 PM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: DFG

Burden was not elected, he was declared the winner. He is a pretender.


43 posted on 06/20/2022 1:21:08 PM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: max americana

“Texas passport ready to go..”

Finally something to look forward to.


44 posted on 06/20/2022 1:21:11 PM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: Dilbert San Diego; All
"Legally, constitutionally, there is no procedure for states to leave the union. Legally, there is a process to admit new states, but not a process for states to secede."

Thanks for posting Dilbert San Diego.

Texas actually needs to lead ALL the states to effectively “secede” from the corrupt federal government by repealing the 16th and 17th Amendments.

Hopefully, even the desperate Democratic-pirated states will wise up to the constitutional reality that the so-called "federal" funding that the states regularly beg the feds for is arguably state revenues that the feds steal from the states by means of unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that the post-17th Amendment ratification Congress cannot reasonably justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

Again, the states need to eliminate the unconstitutional middleman, the unconstitutionally big federal government, from "helping" the states to manage their revenues.

Corrections, insights welcome.

In the meanwhile...

Trump's red tsunami of patriot supporters are reminded that they must vote twice this election year. Your first vote is to primary career RINO incumbents. Your second vote is to replace outgoing Democrats and RINOs with Trump-endorsed patriot candidates.

Again, nsights welcome.

45 posted on 06/20/2022 1:23:15 PM PDT by Amendment10 ( )
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I would say that if a state is going to secede from the union any laws the union might have regarding it are moot. The state is basically saying "you don't count anymore, I'm out."

If you leave your job, your former employer's policies regarding mandatory training no longer apply.

Once you move out of your house, if the roof starts leaking that is no longer your concern.

If a state leaves the union, it is by definition no-longer bound by the union's laws and policies. I don't think the union gets a say in it, at all.

Sure, the union could try to take back the territory by coercion (sanctions, blockades, etc.) It could try to take back the territory by force. Though neither sounds like a particularly effective way to endear yourself to the locals. More like a good way to create a lot of insurgents and welcome them back within your borders.

46 posted on 06/20/2022 1:26:32 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Vaccine mandates: they are not about health, they are about obedience.)
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To: ought-six

The Republic of Fatmot.


47 posted on 06/20/2022 1:27:16 PM PDT by ClaytonForester
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To: nomorelurker

48 posted on 06/20/2022 1:27:56 PM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2018 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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To: nomorelurker

49 posted on 06/20/2022 1:29:38 PM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2018 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

FWIW an acquaintance of mine who was one of the highest raking Intel bureaucrats for some years said they discussed this over and over and consensus was if Texas goes, 10-15 states are weeks away from announcing their desire to go with them and that only way it could be stopped would be with massive military force which would not be workable or acceptable to much of the world

Basically, if Texas just said “we are out” and decide to do their own thing without severely crippling trade/travel or attaching anyone it would just de facto happen gradually over a period of years.


50 posted on 06/20/2022 1:38:25 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: ClaytonForester

“The Republic of Fatmot.”

Is there such a creature?


51 posted on 06/20/2022 1:48:47 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
No, it is in the Constitution that you can amend the Constitution. Then he goes on to state why that amendment would never be offered up, at least by elected members of Congress. But it still could be accomplished by calling for a Constitutional Convention under Article V (5) of the Constitution. That has never been tried either.

So, the argument can be made that LEGALLY there is no prohibition to a state seceding.

First off I was responding to someone else who made a post where he said: Legally, constitutionally, there is no procedure for states to leave the union. Legally, there is a process to admit new states, but not a process for states to secede.

When I responded to his statement(s) with:

Constitutionally, there can be no such thing as secession of a State from the Union. But it does not follow that because a State cannot secede constitutionally, it is obliged under all circumstances to remain in the Union.

To do it constitutionally, you would need to amend the constitution as it exists right now, otherwise, you do it and the U.S. will determine if it allows Texas to secede peacefully or not. After all, the southern states did secede, but it came at a price, did it not?

No one stated that Texas could not secede, just that they could not do so constitutionally, as the constitution currently stands..

52 posted on 06/20/2022 1:51:42 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

“No one stated that Texas could not secede, just that they could not do so constitutionally, as the constitution currently stands..”

It’s a question of interpretation.

If the Constitution is silent on the matter, then there is nothing constitutionally (the supreme law of the land) prohibiting it. It’s like the old saying about the law: “I didn’t break the law because the law does not prohibit it; thus, what I did was within the law that exists.”


53 posted on 06/20/2022 2:04:38 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: DFG

Okay, say Texas DOES secede. How many seats would the Republicans lose in Congress? How many electoral votes?


54 posted on 06/20/2022 2:08:53 PM PDT by Izzatso
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To: TomGuy

“Leftists don’t give up.”

That’s the spirit!


55 posted on 06/20/2022 2:08:58 PM PDT by Howie66 (Let's Go Brandon!!)
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To: DFG

Let’s make Texas a Republic again!


56 posted on 06/20/2022 2:09:49 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't blame me, I voted for President Trump.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Got it.


57 posted on 06/20/2022 2:10:17 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: DFG

Guess they’ve had enough of dc libtards flooding their borders? 🤪


58 posted on 06/20/2022 2:10:36 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I think it would be worth a try to find out.


59 posted on 06/20/2022 2:10:48 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't blame me, I voted for President Trump.)
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To: DFG

If they do, I’m moving to Texas.


60 posted on 06/20/2022 2:11:24 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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