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The Ukraine Echo Chamber Goes Full Chernobyl
PJ Media ^

Posted on 06/14/2022 6:05:44 AM PDT by FarCenter

The lid blew off the Ukraine echo chamber this week as Russian artillery pulverized Ukrainian forces in Donbas. Ukraine has lost 10,000 dead, 40,000 to 50,000 wounded, and 8,000 captured. It is running out of Soviet-era ammunition for its limited artillery. A month ago the whole American body politic, from progressive left to neo-conservatives, drank the victory Kool-Aid. Remember when Russia’s incompetent, corrupt army was about to be swept from the field? As is their wont, the Russians blundered around and took losses for a few weeks before figuring out how to wage an old-fashioned, World War II-style artillery campaign. “It’s been so long since anyone fought a conventional war that they had to remember how to do it,” said a European military observer.

Now Biden (who tweeted April 4 that he had “reduced the ruble to rubble” and shrunk the Russian economy by half) is blaming Zelensky. NATO Secretary Stoltenberg admits that Ukraine will have to give up territory for peace, echoing Henry Kissinger’s comments in Davos. The CIA is telling the New York Times that we had better consider the possibility that Russia might win to avoid another “intelligence failure” (have we had anything else in the past half-century?). That’s a crock, of course; the U.S. has satellites that can tell what Ukrainian soldiers have for lunch as well as large numbers of military advisers on the ground.

We hear obligatory calls for more heavy weapons for Ukraine, but the Russians now can interdict, destroy, or capture most of what we try to send in. Switchblades and Stingers and Javelins are clever weapons but they don’t compensate for a Russian artillery advantage of between 15:1 and 40:1.

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KEYWORDS: anotherneoconfail; grifters4zelensky; neocons4biden; quickmorekoolaid; ukieechochamber; ukraineislosing
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1 posted on 06/14/2022 6:05:44 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

Why does the author sound so joyful about forces defending their own homes being crushed?


2 posted on 06/14/2022 6:12:48 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed

I know I get a chuckle when the Progressive Left and the Neocon so called conservatives get it stuck where the sun dont shine.


3 posted on 06/14/2022 6:16:10 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: FarCenter

🤯💥📣


4 posted on 06/14/2022 6:19:47 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: FarCenter

US Foreign Policy under this utterly idiotic Administration is inept: Confirmed.

US Intelligence Services and Military Intelligence Services, in large part, are politically infiltrated and corrupted to the point of being just flat out inept: Confirmed.

The sheer amount of propaganda coming from the US Intel and Military, as well as Western/Anglo media, was just utterly wrong, inept, and moronic: Confirmed.

And despite the seriously poor showing militarily and the sheer amount of losses/casualties/desertions the Russian military incurred, Putin and the Russian military resolve was underestimated: Confirmed.


5 posted on 06/14/2022 6:20:32 AM PDT by cranked
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To: JimRed

Perhaps this joyfulness is merely in the eye if the readers who are feeling disillusioned.


6 posted on 06/14/2022 6:20:43 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: JimRed

Check your Neocons


7 posted on 06/14/2022 6:20:55 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: JimRed

“Why does the author sound so joyful about forces defending their own homes being crushed?”

I don’t think that is what is happening.


8 posted on 06/14/2022 6:21:07 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: FarCenter

We like it when the Globalists fail spectacularly. Is Hannity still wearing his Uke flag pin? Unfortunately, the Oligarchs in the West still raked in their obscene warbucks. Again.

Hooah....


9 posted on 06/14/2022 6:23:12 AM PDT by TTFlyer (Lenin: that by the infliction of terror, a well-organized minority can conquer a nation.)
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To: JimRed
I didn't get the feeling he was "sounding joyful" but, rather, he sounded extremely frustrated with our (the Western world's) reaction to the invasion.

A few pundits were calling for diplomacy and peaceful resolution; they were condemned as "Putin lovers".

The fact is that the population of eastern Ukraine is genetically Russian; they speak Russian and have always used the Ruble for currency. Ukraine's attempt to join NATO forced Putin's hand.

God forgive us for helping so many get killed, so much destruction, by sending out so much false hope.

10 posted on 06/14/2022 6:23:33 AM PDT by budj (PP)
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To: FarCenter

What is the cost of lies?


11 posted on 06/14/2022 6:23:51 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: JimRed

The Obama administration fomented a civil war in Ukraine in 2014 when He deposed a Democratically Elected President Yanukovich who Represented 50% of the Population of Ukraine. Immediately afterwards 3 Russian Speaking States Seceded. Those 3 states have been pounded by Kiev ever since. You think they are Upset the Russians are helping them?


12 posted on 06/14/2022 6:24:01 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: FarCenter

By all means, fly your Ukrainian flags and make your avatars into Ukrainian shrines, but once again so many have succumbed to the government’s emotional manipulation. So sad we seem to be such a weak and vaccillating society given to easy manipulation.

Hate Orange Man
Covid hysteria
Transgender groomers are so brave
Ukraine
Give up our Constitutional rights so we can be “safe”.


13 posted on 06/14/2022 6:24:25 AM PDT by Obadiah ("America is facing a winter of severe illness and death." Biden's own summary of his America.)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

It’s not really funny but I do too.

Russia didn’t start this fight but they will finish it. The best Ukraine/NATO/US can hope for is a TKO. (unconditional surrender)


14 posted on 06/14/2022 6:25:04 AM PDT by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with and ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: dfwgator

Hundreds of thousands of shattered lives, if you count the families of all the dead, and those who lost every meager home and livelihood they had

But here we go again, as in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Ethiopia….


15 posted on 06/14/2022 6:28:18 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: FarCenter

So Russia can invade and win territory because it wants to

Just remember Russia had a colony on the west coast long ago


16 posted on 06/14/2022 6:38:39 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster
Just remember Russia had a colony on the west coast long ago

What did they do that the Brits didn't?

17 posted on 06/14/2022 6:39:47 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

We had some States secede a while back and we kicked the living snot out of them.

Why is this any different?

L


18 posted on 06/14/2022 6:40:07 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: budj
At least we could give Milley some more ribbons and a medal.


19 posted on 06/14/2022 6:42:12 AM PDT by budj (Combat vet, second of three generations.)
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To: budj

20 posted on 06/14/2022 6:43:09 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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