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The idea of working in the office, all day, every day? No thanks, say workers
NPR ^ | June 5, 2022 | Andrea Hsu

Posted on 06/07/2022 6:22:42 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

To Jonathan Pruiett, it just didn't make sense.

A geospatial analyst who updates Google maps for a living, Pruiett had been called back to his company's offices in Bothell, Washington, five days a week, starting June 6.

Like many on his team, Pruiett had only worked remotely, having started the job in the pandemic. He'd adapted well to it, finding efficiencies such as multitasking during virtual meetings, using the time to process data.

And yet, now he was being told to report to office. Anyone who failed to report within three days of the return date would be processed as having abandoned their job.

"Nothing will change other than having a couple snacks in our office and having an in-person meeting," Pruiett said. "We're kind of starting to think that this job isn't worth it."

Source of tension between workers and bosses

More than two years into a pandemic that has no clear end, the debate over remote work has only intensified. Working from home isn't possible in many jobs. But for those who have the option, it's now evident that it is feasible, even beneficial.

But how beneficial is a point of contention between workers and their bosses. Some bosses are deciding too much is lost when people aren't in the office and it's time to come back.

Tesla boss Elon Musk is one of them. He recently emailed his employees with the subject line "Remote work is no longer acceptable." He reasoned that Tesla creates and makes "the most exciting and meaningful products of any company on Earth. This will not happen by phoning it in."

Musk told them anyone wishing to do remote work "must be in the office for a minimum (and I mean *minimum*) of 40 hours per week."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apple; commutes; elonmusk; google; office; officefossils; pretendwork; remotework; telework; tesla; work; workfromhome
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To: olivia3boys
I believe humans need humans in person occasionally.. it’s not healthy or optimum to live (or work) 100% virtual.

Yep. The novelty will wear off soon. Unless they've been doing "pretend work" the entire time like Elon Musk said.

81 posted on 06/07/2022 8:33:06 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

With communists running DC, and both us of likely knowing the history of communism? They’ll find some way of blowing it up.


82 posted on 06/07/2022 8:33:47 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Bus No. 2525)
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To: joma89

How much is your weekly fuel cost commuting to and from the office?


83 posted on 06/07/2022 8:37:18 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
With communists running DC, and both us of likely knowing the history of communism? They’ll find some way of blowing it up.

We got guns though. It wasn't exactly the case in other countries. But you're right, after what happened on 1/6/2022, it's wise to avoid D.C.

84 posted on 06/07/2022 8:37:19 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
When the lockdowns began in California, I was furious - I continued to go to the office until they simply locked up the buildings in Palo Alto and my badge no longer worked. But something interesting happened in the two years I was forced to work from home - I noticed that my productivity was unchanged. The teams I led were all working from home (in various spots around the globe) and we were doing just fine in development velocity and quality. Arguably better than before.

So I'm in no hurry to scuttle back to the office, driving 15 miles each way with gas in Silicon Valley selling for over $7/gal. Things are fine the way they are. I won't work any job that requires more than an occasional visit to the office.
85 posted on 06/07/2022 8:38:24 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: FLT-bird

Amen brother. 👍


86 posted on 06/07/2022 8:40:41 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: MinorityRepublican

DC had riots, just like a lot of other cities, in 2020. People are being put in danger in that area, being called back to the office.


87 posted on 06/07/2022 8:49:30 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Bus No. 2525)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

After your first few jobs, how did you learn about new positions? Through your friends.

Working from home is cool if you’re at the top of your field and just coasting. But if you want to get ahead, you’ll need friends and contacts — face-to-face contacts that you make in the office.


88 posted on 06/07/2022 8:52:43 PM PDT by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

LinkedIn, Monster, Indeed — people see my resume and send out feelers, too.


89 posted on 06/07/2022 8:58:12 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Bus No. 2525)
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

I got my current job, ironically, through somebody I used to work for face to face. I called him on the phone, he referred me to somebody in the know, and on May 8, 2000, I started my position.


90 posted on 06/07/2022 8:59:03 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Bus No. 2525)
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To: OrangeHoof
'Working remotely, it is easy to be ignored or not included when important information is distributed.'

This is what I felt for the two recent years that I teleworked. But our department was going through enormous changes at the same time, and it might not have been that way otherwise.

I think telework is great if duties make it feasible, but for most it probably should be supplemented with some routine in-office time.
91 posted on 06/07/2022 8:59:20 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: eyedigress

Agreed.


92 posted on 06/07/2022 9:04:26 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The only work I have missed was when we were shut down entirely.

Put your big boy pants back on Pruiett and get to work.

93 posted on 06/07/2022 9:05:50 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It is better to light a single flame thrower then curse the darkness. A bunch of them is better yet)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We are in the DC area not far from Silver Spring.

One thing we really enjoyed about ‘lockdown’ was the almost complete lack of traffic for a long time.

Even before Covid, the drivers here had become very selfish, irresponsible and reckless. It was nice not having to deal with that, but it came with a downside - they got WORSE with Covid and the empty roads!

I don’t have to deal with it anymore, I decided to retire. But my poor husband still does. We are just hoping that things improve as they realize they’re back dealing with constant congestion.

But a lot of the drivers around here are terrible. Be glad you’re gone.


94 posted on 06/07/2022 9:42:42 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: joma89

Its not the office most the time, its the commute.


95 posted on 06/07/2022 9:54:31 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: FLT-bird

Too true. A round trip to the office costs me 3.5 gallons a day. At $4.70/gal that’s $82.25 a week just for gas. However, the depreciation on my car is even more. Figure 125000 miles to lose 80% of the value. At 200 miles a week for. $60k car that’s $153.60 a week. Ignoring maintenance that’s $235.85 out of my pocket every week that I’m NOT paying out by working from home. My pay is not going to increase to cover this if I go back to the office

Plus my boss lives in Texas most of my coworkers are in California and my office is in Atlanta. What’s the point? If it weren’t for the light speed delay I could live on the moon and they’d never know.

The computer stuff I do frequently has run times of an hour or more at the office that’s wasted time. At home I can do other stuff and run multiple jobs until I go to bed.

So you office types can pretend to be virtuous but I’ll be a lot better off working from home unless forced to go to the office and in that case it’s AMF


96 posted on 06/07/2022 9:56:17 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

In the medical insurance claims payment world, work from home is yhe best, claim examers get a list of claims to pay, auditors get a list of claims to audit, and the claims recovery specialist get a list of claim to get the money overpaid, all can be done from home, I loved it.


97 posted on 06/07/2022 10:20:08 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!you)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Everyone loves office work...
https://m.wsj.net/video-atmo/20201013/apartment/apartment_1000x562.jpg

https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Office-Space-Cake.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=370&dpr=1.5

Do not take my Red stapler
https://mediaproxy.salon.com/width/1200/https://media.salon.com/2015/01/office_space2_resize.jpg

Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqxjRzzGn8k

Office Space - Motivation Problems (1999)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgg9byUy-V4


98 posted on 06/08/2022 12:41:13 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Rd later.


99 posted on 06/08/2022 1:59:51 AM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: hopespringseternal

One or two days in the office and the rest remote seems like a good compromise between employers and employees, especially in these high gas price times.

Wasn’t Musk recently praising Chinese forced labor, I mean, workers over Americans recently? He’s just another in a long line of cult of personality CEOs.


100 posted on 06/08/2022 3:09:10 AM PDT by Cecily ( )
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