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To: JonPreston

The Russian bear will be satisfied with taking Kherson area north of the Dnieper, and the so-called Donbas.

For now.


4 posted on 06/04/2022 12:56:20 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
The Russian bear will be satisfied with taking Kherson area north of the Dnieper, and the so-called Donbas.

It's just cease fire until the next war. So why would Ukrainians stop? Only if Russia is humiliated and Putin loses power, then maybe.

12 posted on 06/04/2022 1:09:24 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: BenLurkin

“For now” is why Ukraine cant do this.
It is a guarantee of its utter destruction as a people.

To wish this upon them is a sign of demonic possession.


25 posted on 06/04/2022 1:25:04 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: All

https://t.me/s/intelslava

They’re in Hell: Hail of Russian artillery tests Ukrainian morale
Washington Post — June 3, 2022

The Russian army grinds the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Severodonetsk and Lysichansk

Correspondents of The Washington Post spoke about the plight of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the area.

The journalists talked about the situation with the Ukrainians, who said that it was difficult for them to hold their positions.

The Russian military is an order of magnitude superior to the APU in firepower.

🔹The Armed Forces of Ukraine suffer heavy losses, which affects the morale of the troops.

🔹The TOS-1A “Solntsepyok” heavy flamethrower systems, which destroy them even in the trenches, are especially terrifying.

🔹The Russian military prefer not to engage in direct confrontation, grinding the APU with artillery.

The summary of the journalists is that the defense of the Ukrainian army near Severodonetsk is on the verge of collapse, and their morale is as low as ever.
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Interesting point that Russian military prefer not to engage in direct confrontation and instead grind Ukraine with artillery. That tactic explains why the Russian casualties, with only a few exceptions, have been surprisingly low after the first few weeks of the conflict.

I posted yesterday “breaking news” that Zelensky had just countermanded General Z’s withdraw order (they have been arguing for two weeks about this issue) in Severodonetsk and ordered the troops that had withdrawn to return. They immediately did.

https://t.me/s/ste200284

Arestovich 2 days ago: “We dragged Russian troops into a trap in Severodonetsk, pretending to “surrender” the city. Now the Russian command is in shock.”

https://t.me/s/infantmilitario/77058

“UKR tactics to “hug” RU units have effectively negated Russian air and artillery superiority.”

https://t.me/s/ste200284

Arestovich today: “Possible complete capture of Severodonetsk by Russian troops will not strategically change the situation at the front”

https://t.me/s/ste200284

At this time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine control 20% of Severodonetsk, we have not returned any streets under our control, but only delayed the advance of the Russian army to the industrial zone.

https://t.me/s/intelslava

Intel Slava Z
🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡The strategic plan of Russia in this war is to reach the administrative borders of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, as well as to capture the entire Kherson, Zaporozhye regions, enter Zaporozhye and Nikolaev, which will create the prerequisites for a further offensive to capture the Dnieper and Odessa. How much effort and time they will need to concentrate troops capable of solving this problem is unknown, but they are not going to stop, - Arestovich.


26 posted on 06/04/2022 1:27:00 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: BenLurkin

Yep. Like Herr Hitler, guarantees guarantee nothing. This is appeasement. Pure and simple.


38 posted on 06/04/2022 1:39:49 PM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: BenLurkin

Ukraine was in a good position. They had a special status with the EU.

None of this needed to be!!!

The bear was hibernating.

The bear didn’t want to wake up, not even as we were poking him. In 2014 he woke up briefly, swatted at Ukraine and then went back to sleep.

But we kept poking him: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-president-zelenskiy-holding-talks-with-biden-adviser-says-2021-12-09/

Congratulations Ukraine. Ask yourself how you are better off today? Ask yourself how you think you’ll be better off in the foreseeable future?

This is what happens when someone stands to gain (western economic interests want to see Ukraine in NATO and the EU), and is gambling but it’s YOUR money, YOUR home that is being wagered on that poker table. Cool huh? When someone bets really big but you have to flip the bill. As to the $40 billion, bla bla bal... Almost all of that comes back to us, i.e. US arms sales, US mercenaries, US defense contractors, hell there are even political kick backs wrapped up in that... There are only a few winners here. The US defense industry for sure, not even a question. Mr Z. maybe. He wanted to be the big guy in Ukraine, and we made sure his fantasy and biggest acting role yet gets fulfilled. Everyone else?

Sadly, the Republicans and with their retard hate for the Russians, as well as automatic knee jerk pro military support (even though this wasn’t our war - NATO wasn’t attacked, we shouldn’t even be there according to treaties we signed to), “FAILED” to highlight another Biden disaster.

This was unnecessary.

This was foreseeable.

And what should be egg on Biden’s face isn’t because the Republicans didn’t capitalize on the opposition politics they could have played, and legitimately in this case

But for a while folks were on a high weren’t they!


79 posted on 06/04/2022 3:55:44 PM PDT by Red6
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To: BenLurkin

“taking Kherson area north of the Dnieper,”

Take may be, but it will be a big tactical mistake.

Unless they go all the way to Trans..what the hell ever it is called, there will be a problem with holding any land across that river.

Natural barriers and all that.

Of course if anyone can figure out what the hell goes on in the heads of these barbarians over there. that person will be held in great admiration.


87 posted on 06/04/2022 4:16:41 PM PDT by crz
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