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Biden says Ukraine might have to give Russia land in ‘negotiated settlement’
NY Post ^ | 6/3/22 | Steven Nelson

Posted on 06/04/2022 12:53:43 PM PDT by JonPreston

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To: plain talk

Biden - “Ukraine may have to give Russia some land. But hey it shouldn’t exceed 10% of their land.”
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Per the signed Minsk agreements of 2014, Vlad keeps the ethnic Russian provinces ( Donbass) as should be( about 20 percent), the Ukies have shelled them since 2015.

Question is, when do the Ukies realize the Donbass is a huge problem for them since they declared their Independence. Maybe when Vlad finishes securing the Donbass ( if he wastes no time in closing the pocket) he can trap 15-17,000 Ukies,( current Pentagon estimate) which is looking like a certainty. Maybe that will get the corrupted little beggar Zelensky to the table.

In any case, even by the Pentagon estimates, Vlad can wrap this up sooner than later….all bets off if he decides to eat Odessa for lunch.


41 posted on 06/04/2022 1:40:57 PM PDT by delta7
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To: nwrep

“Kissinger is always right. The world’s smartest man.”

A lot of us think he screwed the South Vietnamese big-time in the “Peace” Agreement signed in January, 1973. History proved we were right.


42 posted on 06/04/2022 1:41:39 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Cathi

The troops that returned to Severodonetsk are 200-300 troops from the International Brigade, not UA troops.The Orcs are now under the UA artillery on the heights of Lysichansk.

The Orcs use artillery because they have 4,000 tubes with unlimited free ammo and because most of their best troops are 200s.

The capture Severodonetsk is an Orc propaganda piece and not a strategic milestone as the article rightfully says.

Putin trolls are very unhappy about this turn of events and are out in force today to squash any hint of militarily good news for the people of Ukraine.


43 posted on 06/04/2022 1:41:54 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: JonPreston

He must be secretly watching Bannon’s Warroom podcast. This was the advice that was given when Russia first entered the disputed Eastern Ukraine provinces. Unfortunately, this episode was 40 billion dollars and thousands of lives ago. Oh well, better late than never.


44 posted on 06/04/2022 1:42:21 PM PDT by Dave Wright
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To: plain talk

Just like the US should secede California, Arizona, and New Mexico, because we we’re the illegal invaders in 1812 and took it by force. Wait, something doesn’t add up here./s


45 posted on 06/04/2022 1:42:34 PM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: JonPreston

46 posted on 06/04/2022 1:42:50 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: JonPreston

President Retard is a Putinista lol 🤪

What a waste of money


47 posted on 06/04/2022 1:46:53 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: JonPreston
When will our Ukrainian Cheerleaders know it's over?
When Zelenskyyy pulls a "Ashraf Ghani" and disappears in the middle of the night with $billions in American tax dollars.
That day is coming soon

Is next:

"ZZelenskyy!! Financial Lootings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Ukraine Person of ZZelenskyy!!"

;>)

48 posted on 06/04/2022 1:48:09 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: buwaya

To wish this upon them is a sign of demonic possession.
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Possession, no, Vlad has shown much restraint, evil spirits maybe, nukes would be possession. Do realize Zelensky and Vlad are evil, none better than the other. Zelensky many evil sins of omission, Vlad many evil sins of commission.

When Vlad gets the ethnic Russian Donbass provinces, both the Ukies and Vlads crimes will be seen. I do believe the little beggar Zelensky will be ousted, Vlad will remain.

Support neither, this has turned into vegetable head Biden’s war.


49 posted on 06/04/2022 1:48:23 PM PDT by delta7
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To: PIF

“Giving land to the Orc is culturally, not politically, unacceptable”

Neither is admiring the SS and being a nazi. But the Hobbits and Harry Potter wizards may have to accept reality at some point.


50 posted on 06/04/2022 1:49:27 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: JonPreston

Kissinger was an ass wipe during Viet Nam. He is still one. Just with Aloe.

Biden is a senile old fool who is going to get a lot of people killed.


51 posted on 06/04/2022 1:50:10 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: DownInFlames

This is appeasement. Pure and simple.
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No, the Minsk agreements were signed law by Ukraine. The Ukies violated the agreement, pure and simple.


52 posted on 06/04/2022 1:50:47 PM PDT by delta7
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To: JonPreston

The title is false. There’s nothing in the quotes about giving up land.


53 posted on 06/04/2022 1:53:52 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: DesertRhino

You cannot win any conversation, discussion, or argument using the word ‘Nazi’. Just so you know, in case it has escaped you after all these years. Using to HP reference to denigrate a legitimate use of a word long associated with invading Mongols is just stupid.


54 posted on 06/04/2022 1:54:22 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

“Putin trolls are very unhappy about this turn of events and are out in force today to squash any hint of militarily good news for the people of Ukraine.”

Good to hear, Baghdad Bob, we were getting worried when we see articles like this. Sounds like Ukraine has Russia EXACTLY where they want them.


55 posted on 06/04/2022 1:56:16 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: PIF

Putin trolls are very unhappy about this turn of events and are out in force today to squash any hint of militarily good news for the people of Ukraine.
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Same western MSM BS about Mariupol, look what happened there, western MSM said winning, then “ holding out”, then “evacuated “, fact is they surrendered, a huge gain for Vlad, 3500 surrendered, many more killed.

The Ukies are not losing the Donbass according to western MSM, non western MSM reports they are toast….Mariupol repeat x 100.


56 posted on 06/04/2022 1:56:24 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Mean Daddy
They couldn’t have sent a white flag vs. $40B

The WHOLE POINT was to get the $40 billion through Congress without a fight.

Why do you think Mitch, Pelosi, and all the other slimeballs went over there? It was to secure their piece of the pie.

Now that it's been approved, there is no need for the war anymore.

57 posted on 06/04/2022 1:56:33 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Fido969

“Now that (the $40B has) been approved, there is no need for the war anymore.”

Very true - literally EVERYONE in DC knew it was just money down the drain by the time they voted to approve it.

...so there must have been other motivations.


58 posted on 06/04/2022 1:59:13 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: PIF

“The Orcs use artillery because they have 4,000 tubes with unlimited free ammo and because most of their best troops are 200s.”


Now, that was funny...:-) Leaving aside for a moment your unevidenced claim that their best troops are dead, why would anyone not choose to use artillery when it results in substantially lower casualties.

“The troops that returned to Severodonetsk are 200-300 troops from the International Brigade, not UA troops

Ukraine on Saturday announced the deaths of four foreign military volunteers who joined the fight against the Russian invasion, three of whom were from the EU. “We wish to remember and honor our fallen brothers, who travelled to Ukraine to join the bravest of the brave and fight shoulder to shoulder with the defenders of Ukraine,” the International Legion of Defense of Ukraine said in a statement.


59 posted on 06/04/2022 1:59:30 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: JonPreston

it also means the deep state muppets like the bidens and mcconnells already pulled their money from Ukraine banks and transferred them to another former Russian satellite nation..


60 posted on 06/04/2022 2:00:54 PM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2018 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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