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Seattle becomes first US city to set minimum wage for app-based delivery drivers
businessinsider com ^ | June 1, 2022 | Urooba Jamal

Posted on 06/01/2022 4:19:46 PM PDT by lowbridge

Seattle has become the first US city to set a minimum wage for app-based delivery drivers after new rules were passed on Tuesday.

The "Pay Up" bill will set the minimum wage for these workers in accordance with the city's rate of $17.27 per hour and come into force in 2023, The Seattle Times reported.

"We live in an expensive city; many delivery workers earn below the minimum wage after expenses and tips are accounted for," said Lisa Herbold, one of the council members behind the bill, in a statement. 

"The passage of this legislation will help tens of thousands of delivery workers make ends meet while maintaining their flexibility."

Delivery drivers face challenging situations including demanding workloads, long hours, safety concerns, confrontational customers, and a lack of access to toilets. 

Food delivery drivers working for companies such as UberEats, Grubhub and DoorDash are paid per ride, in addition to tips. Some of these companies having resisted setting minimum wages for workers in the US in particular.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: minimumwage; seattle

1 posted on 06/01/2022 4:19:46 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Here’s my prediction. Those companies will slowly dwindle away in the Seattle area until they just pull out completely.

One could say they’ll wither on the vine


2 posted on 06/01/2022 4:23:31 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: lowbridge

Never used one of these apps. I’m not going to pay a surcharge for being lazy. Either I get my ass out of my recliner to go out to eat, or I make something at home.


3 posted on 06/01/2022 4:23:42 PM PDT by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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To: lowbridge

So, the longer they take to deliver your meal, the more they get paid? Yeah, what could possibly go wrong?


4 posted on 06/01/2022 4:29:02 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: rarestia

People tend to make such decisions based upon cost/benefit analysis. For some, their time is more valuable than the cost of delivery.

Me? I enjoy cooking. Right now Mrs. Chandler and I are making stir fry together.


5 posted on 06/01/2022 4:56:00 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I am a Doordash driver and I currently average $25 an hour. This sounds like a pay cut to me.


6 posted on 06/01/2022 5:04:55 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: lowbridge

I was given a $100 grubhub gift certificate. I threw it away. To redeem it, you have to give them your bank account/credit card. Plus, the restaurant usually charges more, grubhub tacks on their fees, the delivery guy gets a slice, and you have to give them all a huge tip. The sandwich, or whatever, winds up costing over twice what it costs to go pick it up, you get cold food, the order is wrong, you have to wait an hour, and some guy in Butte Montana gets his food charged to your bank account.

I’m shocked that anybody does this, ever.

Maybe when they start using automated delivery, and cut out the tip....


7 posted on 06/01/2022 5:06:02 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: freepertoo

I really admire people who do side gigs. (Lord knows, side gigs have saved my rear on more than one occasion.) 25 bucks an hour is not bad at all.


8 posted on 06/01/2022 5:09:11 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

It’s lots of fun. I am a recently retired legal secretary and fitness trainer. I didn’t want to go back to being a worker under someone’s thumb, so I started driving for DD a year and a half ago. It’s lucrative,fun, and I just worker when I want to. I drive a Prius,so gas prices hurt, but not as much as they would in a non hybrid. You do have to have a car you’re willing to beat up.


9 posted on 06/01/2022 5:16:51 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: freepertoo

Incidentally, my customers never get their food late or cold. And because we use our personal cars and pay our own gas, the tips are very much appreciated.


10 posted on 06/01/2022 5:19:38 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: freepertoo
I recently started a business that relies upon independent contractors. We pay them well because they're worth it.
11 posted on 06/01/2022 5:25:47 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: lowbridge
"We live in an expensive city;

And it'll get worse with government setting wages.

12 posted on 06/01/2022 5:36:10 PM PDT by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: lowbridge

Does this mean they’ll stop eating part of my food before delivering it to me? Actually, too late, I’ve stopped ordering delivery altogether since I had a couple cases where I suspected this happened.


13 posted on 06/01/2022 5:36:44 PM PDT by Mozzafiato
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To: Born to Conserve

I was laid up in a nursing home for rehabilitation after an operation.

The food in the hospital was ok. But the food in the nursing home was downright horrible for the most part. As a result, for the very first time in my life I used the services of a food delivery app (doordash) to have food sent to me from various eateries nearby the nursing home. The very first place I ordered from was a Burger King.

Normally, if I had went to any burger king in person to purchase my food, the cost for my order would have been somewhere around 15 bucks. But ordering through the app, my one meal from Burger king cost me over 30 bucks (including tip for the delivery person). I was quite reluctant to pay that at first (the app displays the entire cost to you before you confirm the order). But I went through with it seeing as my only other choices was to eat the horrible nursing home food or starve.

In spite of the expensive cost of ordering food delivery through the app, it was a very good, convenient service.


14 posted on 06/01/2022 5:39:20 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: rarestia

For me, it wasnt a case of being lazy. I was laid up in a nursing home for rehabilitation after an operation.

The food in the hospital was ok. But the food in the nursing home was downright horrible for the most part. As a result, for the very first time in my life I used the services of a food delivery app (doordash) to have food sent to me from various eateries nearby the nursing home. The very first place I ordered from was a Burger King.

Normally, if I had went to any burger king in person to purchase my food, the cost for my order would have been somewhere around 15 bucks. But ordering through the app, my one meal from Burger king cost me over 30 bucks (including tip for the delivery person). I was quite reluctant to pay that at first (the app displays the entire cost to you before you confirm the order). But I went through with it seeing as my only other choices was to eat the horrible nursing home food or starve.

In spite of the expensive cost of ordering food delivery through the app, it was a very good, convenient service. And now that I’m back home, I’ve gone back to going in person to various places to purchase my food and take it home myself.


15 posted on 06/01/2022 5:41:57 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Kiss Uber and Lyft goodbye. That model is toast.


16 posted on 06/01/2022 6:14:46 PM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: Jeff Chandler

So nice of you to say! On behalf of your gig workers, thank you.


17 posted on 06/02/2022 3:36:27 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: freepertoo

Maybe I just have a good location, but all of the DD drivers I have encountered, and I guess I’ll include myself in that, have a good work ethic, strive to do the best job possible, and enjoy their work. Dashers have horror stories about some clients as much as some clients do about Dashers. The few bad ones are usually weeded out and penalized if DD finds the client’s complaint holds water. Serious Dashers work very hard to toe the line. This is, in essence, our own business, we are not employed by DD. It is very unjust to Broad brush all drivers if a bad experience occurs. By and large, Dasher are serious about what they do.


18 posted on 06/02/2022 3:45:04 PM PDT by freepertoo
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