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More police isn't the answer after Texas shooting, experts say
NBC News / Comcast ^ | May 31, 2022 | By Char Adams (D-NBC)

Posted on 06/01/2022 7:25:16 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District in Texas has its own police department, complete with four officers, a detective and security staff who patrol the campus and its entrances. This didn’t prevent a gunman from killing 19 children and two teachers at Robb Elementary School last week.

“The research is clear that more police and hardening schools doesn’t work,” said Patrick Bresette, executive director of the Children’s Defense Fund of Texas.

This debate over school police isn’t new, though. Organizers have long pointed out the negative impacts of police in schools: Black and Latino children are more likely to be criminalized by school officers, and there are no sweeping federal laws that regulate the police use of force on students. In the last 15 years, police in schools across the country have been reported as punishing students for common childhood behaviors such as talking back to teachers and fighting.

Advocates say that discussions about school policing must acknowledge racial disparities. Schools with larger Black and Latino populations are more likely to have police officers in the halls, metal detectors and security cameras, making the students more likely to be stunned, assaulted or pepper-sprayed by police. And police often criminalize Black children for conduct considered common among kids — like mouthing off or fighting at school.

Experts say ramping up police presence at schools will disproportionately impact Black and Latino students. The University at Albany and RAND study also found that school officers’ presence leads to more suspensions, expulsions, police referrals, chronic absences and arrests for students, and Black students are two times more likely than whites to experience these consequences.

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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Just another BS propaganda piece from another of the main stream propaganda agencies. Responsible people around individuals such as these psychopaths need to be proactive with regard to their access to guns, schools, etc. From my limited knowledge of these situations, it appears the individuals gave enough signals of mental/emotions problems that something should have been done to help them/society.

You just knew that since the perp was not white the left would bring race in the side door. For them, race is their favored wedge issue and they use it for every situation where their primary narrative is brought into question.


41 posted on 06/01/2022 8:02:13 AM PDT by Rlsau1
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All
Ordinary people do quite well, if they are armed and close.

You don't need police, although some police have done well.

What you need are responders who are:

1. Present

2. Armed, and

3. Willing to engage.

42 posted on 06/01/2022 8:02:52 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Yo-Yo

Israelis themselves joke that barbed wire is the National Flower of Israel. . .those kids in that picture seem nonchalant about it all although I do cringe seeing the teacher squatting down there—note the toddler right on the slide next to him ready to reach over and squeeze the trigger.


43 posted on 06/01/2022 8:06:13 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

First of all, police should be around to protect the people in the schools, not to arrest the students!

The fact that school administrators call the police to deal with students talking back to teachers and what have you is a misuse of police time and should be treated like a false call to the police.

Second, when there are problems with black students, it is usually *not* a problem with black students in general but with a small number of black students. Schools need to deal *effectively* with the small number of students who cause problems, and stop allowing that small number of students to ruin education for the rest of them. (As an added benefit, school scores might go up when the students who want to learn are able to do so without disruption.)


44 posted on 06/01/2022 8:06:47 AM PDT by Chicory
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Running is an effective way-maybe the best way—to survive a school shooting or any mass shooting. All 4 of my teens ran cross country and track in high school and would be out of there in a hot second. . .


45 posted on 06/01/2022 8:09:01 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

locked doors is a good start.


46 posted on 06/01/2022 8:10:10 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I have seen absolutely nothing that discusses the qualifications of the “school” police. Are they trained as are regular police - firearms, confrontation, etc. , or are they trained as social workers with few/no physical skills.
Why does a separate department even exist?


47 posted on 06/01/2022 8:11:02 AM PDT by Louie82
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You don’t necessarily need more police, if you hire police willing to get into harm’s way instead of waiting around...


48 posted on 06/01/2022 8:16:05 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Marxists always refer to “studies”.

What utter BS!


49 posted on 06/01/2022 8:17:49 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Louie82; All
School resource officers are usually there because the police department doesn't trust them elsewhere.

They are usually at the bottom of the police barrel.

50 posted on 06/01/2022 8:18:48 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Lurker

let me guess

patrick is pro gun banning and confiscation


51 posted on 06/01/2022 8:21:53 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: olivia3boys
although I do cringe seeing the teacher squatting down there—note the toddler right on the slide next to him ready to reach over and squeeze the trigger.

The trigger guard is covered by the holster, and the holster is a level II retention holster that requires the deactivation of a retention latch before the weapon can be withdrawn from the holster.

It's safe from curious hands, although I'm sure even at that age they're taught not to touch.

52 posted on 06/01/2022 8:24:14 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No 9f course not. Sheesh. Liberal think = “we must prevent law abiding citizens from being armed, prevent cops from responding, and make sure all doors to schools/gun free zones are wide open whenever there is a perp in the area” “oh, and sue the gun manufacturers when the lerps take lives, while coddling the perp and giving them the lightest sentences possible, beczuse this might endear them to,the idea that we ,ove them and want the best for them so maybe they wont do what they do so often”

Satan has tried over and over to destroy the world, to destroy god and destroy morality, but it wasn’t until liberals were invented that he began having the most success.


53 posted on 06/01/2022 8:30:27 AM PDT by Bob434 (.)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

Patrick Bresette, executive director of the Children’s Defense Fund of Texas

Expert my A$$


54 posted on 06/01/2022 8:34:36 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So, what “research” are you blathering about? Whose bum did you probe for that?

The school was not hardened. A virtue signaling lock and reinforced door don’t cut it. That was window dressing.

And, adding more coppers? What the ‘Ell for? The ones on site didn’t do anything but get kiddies out of areas not under attack and keep anyone else from attacking the DBag murdering kiddies while they stood around.


55 posted on 06/01/2022 8:35:36 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wonder if Patrick Bresette owns any firearms...?


56 posted on 06/01/2022 8:36:49 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
More police isn't the answer after Texas shooting, experts say

Of course not. More police with balls is the answer.

57 posted on 06/01/2022 8:52:04 AM PDT by viewfromthefrontier
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To: BiglyCommentary

“Of course it doesn’t, that’s why all the super rich and politicians send THEIR KIDS to elite private schools with more armed guards than a US embassy in a hostile country.”

We and other adult family members helped to fund/enable our grandkids/nieces/nephews to attend good private high schools.

The protective side or lack of it started in the parking lots. When our grandkids attended what was a supposedly good public school, we never encountered security police when we picked up our grandkids every other Wednesday. In fact we were swarmed by other kids wanting us to help them play.

It was a total difference, when they attended private schools. If we weren’t challenged by a security guard before we got out of the parking lot, we were challenged before we went into the campus or the school office for a pass/badge or an escort.


58 posted on 06/01/2022 8:59:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has anyone, recently, seen a Biden sticker on any vehicle and in particular at a gas station!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It took a man with a gun to stop the man with the gun, he just didn’t arrive soon enough, so have men with guns waiting in the schools.

Your experts are fools.


59 posted on 06/01/2022 9:02:45 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: marktwain

In 40 minutes, he could have used a machete


60 posted on 06/01/2022 9:09:49 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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