Posted on 05/29/2022 9:26:40 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
In the wake of yet another mass shooting, some Texas politicians have called for increased mental health services to help prevent the next tragedy.
But experts working in the field warn that there is no fully effective solution to stop these shootings before they happen, with some saying that blaming mental health is a deflection from the fact that gun control is a necessary part of prevention.
"We can do all the things we can to help students, but at the end of the day, if a student has the notion to go shoot up a school and has access to the weapons to do that, I'm not sure any measures that may or may not have taken place would necessarily prevent it," said Jill Cook, the executive director of the American School Counselor Association.
"If somebody comes to a door with a semiautomatic weapon," Cook said, "that's it then."
Although Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said Wednesday that a "mental health challenge" had played a role in the massacre, the gunman had no known criminal history or mental health issues.
Less than 10 percent of shootings nationwide involve a suspect who has a mental illness, according to the National Alliance on Mental Illness.
Experts said mental health providers can only do so much, as gun violence and firearm purchases surge nationwide.
"Mental health is not going to take us all the way there," Cohen said. "The mental health community cannot solve the problem of gun violence in America."
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The guy blew up a school house full of kids in Michigan. No reason found, he was normal except he shot his neighbors dog, beat a horse to death, argued with neighbors, and had 100’s of pounds of ww1 surplus explosives in his possesion. killed his wife and kids too. but, Just a nornal guy ,/s
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/1927-bombing-remains-americas-deadliest-school-massacre-180963355/
Maybe shooting a perp while he’s outside for 12 minutes....
I apologise to doodledawg, i should have been more subtle, I dont want to set anyone off and doodle is too simple to understand Im being sarcastic /s
Some want to focus on age and deny or make it harder for young people to own firearms. Others want to defer to authorities, psychologists such as myself to determine who is capable. But millions of American's are law abiding gun owners who will never commit these crimes.
If some form of psychological fitness becomes a new requirement for gun ownership - with very few exceptions, the people who voted for Joe Biden will be determining who is competent to own a gun.
Maybe hanging corpses in cages had some deterrent value, as ugly as it is.
I read about an ancient Greek suicide epidemic among young women; the authorities put a stop to it by ordering that the bodies be dragged naked through the streets.
I have no idea how you deter the ones who plan to surrender alive. Heap scorn upon them for picking soft targets, children and grandmothers? The Buffalo shooter was considering churches and schools as alternatives Not, for some reason, the Crips’ corner. He’ll spend his life in protective solitary, or it will be a short and tortured life.
Gun control will not work. There are over 400 million guns in this country and with 3D printing, it is easier than ever to print your own gun. Blaming guns for the actions of a madman in this case makes as much sense as blaming cars for the actions of another madman in Waukesha. Its not the implement. Anybody willing to commit mass murder is not going to care about any law you pass.
I don’t think that the Charleston church shooter, Columbine shooters, Buffalo shooter, and many workplace shooters are/were mentally ill in the sense of being detached from reality.
Monstrously selfish, consumed with rage, nursing a grudge or idea to obsession, but not insane, certainly not in the legal sense. Unbalanced, yes, but a lot of unbalance is letting yourself get to that place.
I know better. It's those like you who are depending on the mental health care system to screen out potential shooters and prevent these kind of shootings. You haven't a clue as to how to make it work.
...but I do have a test for stupid...
And I'll bet you aced it.
Let’s see. The Soros appointed Democratic DAs all over the country are refusing to prosecute criminals, many Democratic Governors want to defund the Police, the Biden administration has opened the borders to illegal aliens and terrorists and many school systems are planting perverted ideas about sex and gender. Is it any wonder kiddos, young people and even older folks are becoming mentally unstable?
What a load of 🐄💩.
True.
A couple of cans of gasoline.🙄
Yup, gun free zones are just shooting gallery’s for the bad guys.🤔
Every situation has a “expert” hindsight genius.
“Perhaps it is time we stopped pretending that medical-sounding labels contribute anything to our understanding of the complex causes of human distress or of what kind of help we need when distressed.”
I work in mental health. And I believe we do a fine job of keeping MOST people well, functional, and alive (avoiding deaths through suicide) most of all.
We are not quacks. Prescribing medications to those who are depressed, or have ADHD, or bipolar, schizophrenia — these are mental illnesses which need treatment — just like your high blood pressure or your diabetes. Millions are treated every single day and go on to live productive lives — myself included as I’ve suffered two whopping clinical depressions in my lifetime. Without these meds, I wouldn’t have the life that I do now.
If I had to characterize my patients — they are GOOD people for the most part who have suffered traumas, poor lives, abuse, or have suffered loss. I would be shocked if any of the patients on my panel would do something of this nature. Most fear death, and are just trying to keep their heads above water.
This kind of crap is due to EVIL and pure social breakdown — PERIOD. No Dad, no mom, mom on drugs, no one watching the kid, no one guiding him. Who took him to scouts, to church, to activities growing up that formed his character. Who pulled him off socials, taught him how to care for others ...for himself. NO ONE. We are raising feral maniacs within a perverted society which refuses to punish wrongdoing ... he wasn’t mentally ill — he lacked a conscience, a moral foundation and character. He was a ruined human being — and we’re producing these ferals now by the millions.
We didn’t have many mass shootings back when mentally ill people were confined and treated in county/state level facilities.
returning to teaching the 3 r’s instead of their teaching confusion, division, and hate might help stop this madness...
Mass shootings impossible to prevent with gun control laws.
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