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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 29 May 2022
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 29 May 2022 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 05/29/2022 4:42:47 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



May 29th, 2022

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Guest host Sandra Smith: Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.); Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.). Panel: Brit Hume, Olivia Beavers, POLITICO’s congressional reporter and Ju-an Williams (will Brit beech-slap Ju-an?).

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Hosted by Chuck U. Toad: A special edition focused on gun policy (with ALL anti-gun advocates): Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.); Law enforcement analyst on MSNBC Cedric Alexander; Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, former Mayor of Baltimore; Parkland father Tony Monalto. Panel: Cornell Belcher, Pat McCrory, Ashley Parker and Ali Vitali—just another easily forgotten group of angry Leftists slinging anti-American balderdash.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Margaret Brennan anchors: Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.); Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson; Uvalde County Commissioner Ronnie Garza; Rep. Val Demings (D-Fla.); CEO of Sandy Hook Promise Nicole Hockley; Jaclyn Corin, student at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, now activist against gun violence; and, as always, Former FDA commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Hosted by Little Georgie Steponallofus: Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.); Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.). Panel: Donna Brazile-Nut, Susan Glasser, Jonathan Martin and Ramesh Ponnuru –more Fat RINOs and Left-wing Propagandists!

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Anchored by Jake Toe-Tapper: Texas democrap state Sen. Roland Gutierrez; Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-Texas); Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.); Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.). Panel: None listed—Tapper doesn’t always have a panel, but when he does, it is made up of fruits and nuts!

SUNDAY MORNING FUTURES (FNC): The Show to watch! Hosted by Maria Bartiromo, guest-anchored by Sean Duffy : Rep. Beth Van Duyne (R-Texas) ; Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.); Rep. Byron Donalds (R-Fla.); and Rep. Claudia Tenney (R-N.Y.).


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As always, soliciting FReeper comments, observations, and opinions on the shows.

The True Significance of Memorial Day

As our nation heads into a long holiday weekend, I’d like to take some time to reflect on the meaning behind Memorial Day. First recognized nationally in May of 1868, the holiday previously known as Decoration Day grew out of local tributes in the 1860s to those who died during the Civil War. Eventually the holiday became a day to honor all those who died in America’s wars and became a national holiday in 1971.

Parade Magazine writer Tamra Bolton said this about Memorial Day: “This is the day we pay homage to all those who didn’t come home. This is not Veterans Day, it’s not a celebration, it is a day of solemn contemplation over the cost of freedom.” I concur, and encourage all of you to think about what freedom means to you the true meaning of service.

While this is a very meaningful day in our AFCEA community, Memorial Day also marks the unofficial start of summer. However you choose to observe this holiday, I hope all of you are also able to take some time to relax and recharge with loved ones while still remembering our fallen heroes so we are at our best as we take on our mission of national security.

--Lt. Gen. S. S. Lawrence, USA (Ret.)


1 posted on 05/29/2022 4:42:47 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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This is the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread Ping List! If you want to be on it, reply to this post or FReepmail me (in case I miss it). If you want to be taken off, simply send me a FReepmail.


Have a “humble” Memorial Day!

2 posted on 05/29/2022 4:43:39 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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C-SPAN Radio, available on the net also, click here, broadcasts all five Sunday talk shows starting at 12:00 noon Eastern, as follows:

12:00 PM - 1:00 PM NBC's "Meet the Press"

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM ABC's "This Week"

2:00 PM - 3:00 PM "Fox News Sunday"

3:00 PM - 4:30 PM CNN's "State of the Union"

4:30 PM - 5:00 PM CBS's "Face The Nation"

Listen at the link above WHILE you FReep! Also, Sharyl Attkinson’s Full Measure: Watch live at 9:30 EST.

3 posted on 05/29/2022 4:44:10 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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Here are the email addresses or web pages--and now Twitter pages--for commenting to the weekend talk shows:

Email: Meet the Press Meet the Press mailbox (web page for comments) Twitter: @MeetThePress @ChuckTodd

Email: Face the Nation ftn@cbsnews.com Twitter: @FaceTheNation

Email: Fox News Sunday FNS@foxnews.com Twitter: @foxnewssunday

Email: ABC This Week thisweek@abc.com Twitter: @ThisWeekABC @GStephanopoulos

Email: CNN State of the Union CNN State of the Union (web page for comments) Twitter: @CNNSotu @JakeTapper

Email: Sunday Morning Futures Maria@FoxBusiness.com Twitter: @MariaBartiromo

4 posted on 05/29/2022 4:44:42 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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“The Sunday Morning Bray”, by Bray!

But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children’s children; To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them. Psalm 103:17-18 (King James Version)

It appears Robert Kennedy Jr is right with his theory stating as many as 85% of the deaths from Cold-19 were from medical malpractice, what is the combined deaths of Covid and the Clot Shot? If it is what many are estimating the number of total deaths would be between 2 and 10 million? This would put this in one of the greatest killing fields in the past hundred years. It would only be behind China, Russia, and Pol Pot in the total number of innocent civilians killed by their gummit. Was it by accident or on purpose?

This is one of the greatest medical mass murders of any in histoir. As was shown previously the book explained how the cartel of Hospitals, Doctors, Big Pharma and The District of Corruption they systematically killed the elderly and then anyone who came down with the virus. With the use of deadly protocols including the injection of Remdesivir and ventilators the hospitals set up a killing machine while making billions.

The big money and killing formula was the Vax. Fauxi’s CDC set up an emergency using the protocol to trick Trump into pushing for an emergency vaccine to get around the FDA regulations for an experimental compound. Even though it has been failing tests on animals and small human tests horribly the FDA pushed it through on an emergency basis due to the thousands of dying in late 2020.

The vax of course is called the Clot Shot due to its horrific connection with clots after taking it along with a myriad of deadly side effects everyone knows about. Most people know more people who died shortly after taking the shot than know who died from Covid. Those that know more Covid deaths they are most likely have actually died from remdesivir than actual Covid.

There are now reports of a 25% higher incidence of blood and high fat cancers such as breast, bladder, brain, and ovarian cancers. These are not being reported thanks to the CDC changing the reporting criteria as well as a whitewashing of the data so nobody can trace it for follow-up investigations.

The other obvious problem is the inability to connect an unconnected disease with the vax making proving it more difficult. Add to that and the powers which control doing a massive destruction of the evidence and you only have the usual accusation of conspiracy without a real investigation.

If Kennedy and the Frontline Doctors and other investigators of this fake pandemic are correct then there are likely up to 5% of the shot takers dying within two years of the jab. It could go as high as 10% although it is impossible to connect the dots without the cooperation of the CDC which is not going to happen.
If you only had 5% of the 200 million Americans who took the jab you are talking in the neighborhood of 10 million along with the near million who died from the protocols giving you the 10 million plus. This is one of the largest disasters in world history and the Establishmedia is doing their usual sweeping it under the rug waiting for the Commie Doggie Treat.

This was and is the perfect storm for the World Communist Party. Unfortunately, for the people President Trump was blindsided by the deaths in New York City and did not see his own Head of CDC was part of the coup. Fauxi told him he had to act quickly or millions of people would die from Cold-19 and The Donald believed him. Who would not want to save millions of lives?

The Covid Cartel was very likely coordinating with China when they flew their super spreaders around the world to destination hot spots like Disneyland, Las Vegas, NYC, DC, London, Paris, Rome and wherever people where visiting and taking back to their cities.

This was documented early on in the disease which made a worldwide emergency forcing gummits to take actions such as shutdowns, masks, and MAIL IN BALLOTS. Then came the emergency order for the Vax and you had the perfect storm to steal an election while killing hundreds of thousands if not tens of millions of older citizens while allowing Big Pharma to make billions. Either this was the greatest coincidence in the history of diseases or it was planned by some very evil people.

Now the same people who organized the disease are trying to convince you they care about twenty deaths in Texas and a dozen deaths in Buffalo. The same people who are outraged and picketing the Supreme Justices houses for not allowing millions more dead babies are just as outraged some slightly older babies are killed, no, really.

The same people who are forcing you to get a shot which could kill or maim you are now outraged kids are being killed by psychopaths. They are now telling the people who survived the hospital protocols and clot shot, trust us with your kids while they take away the best tool to protect your kids.

Their solution to stopping mass murderers is to handcuff all the innocent people who would never kill anybody. This is like locking up all the potential victims and letting the murderers walk freely or as many call it a DC solution to make things worse.

How about The Beltway of Bribes go back to square one before they offer any more of their brilliant answers? What if they find out why so many people died from their protocols when other countries had much better results and then report how many died within six months of the clot shot? When they can answer those questions then they can offer some more brilliant ideas for stopping young boys taking Ritalin from shooting up schools after spending 24/7 playing bloodbath games.

It is always the same solution to every issue to a fresh pile of bodies, take away more of your Rights. Just as they want to take the Right of Life from a baby in the womb, which is still the deadliest place in America, their solution to this is take away your Right to protect yourself. They already have taken your Right to freedom during the lockdowns and on it goes.

The Communist Party very likely killed north of 10 million Americans during the Scamdemic while destroying the world stealing the Presidency. This was a digital coup using a very sophisticated cartel stretching around the four corners of the world. Everyone lost except Big Pharma, Big Medical and the DNC, they all won by getting more wealthy and powerful while the rest of the country is now paying the price.

The good news is the Good News, God is revealing everything as it is all being exposed. From the Hillary Russia Scam to the millions being killed during the Covid. Their hate and anger has exposed the systemic methods of voter fraud as well the curing powers of drugs such as Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine and other methods of treatment. It is all coming together to the Glory of God as the evil is being revealed to his people.

Pray for revival

Note: The above opinion is not necessarily my own, but FReeper Bray’s. If you wish to discuss this, please ping Bray.


5 posted on 05/29/2022 4:45:21 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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• Morning AB, All. As always, thank you AB for doing this thread so reliably and keeping the peace with gentle thread policing. Thank you Bray for weekly written wisdom, Thank you RG for your fabulous pictures. Thank all yon contributors for excellent commentary to flesh it all out.

• Below are the words from my daily political diary. It is quite long so scroll on by if not interested. But do stay around and add your commentary and point of view to the thread.

 

 Daily Miscellany

Thoughts and flashes of brilliance that enter my head from nowhere.

Enjoy.  Or abhor, depending on the effect of my "wisdom".

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Nancy Pelosi Denied Communion in Catholic Church in San Francisco


So the church is getting a bit weary of very public Catholics who are also very public about their pro-choice devotion.  This is a big problem here in Delaware, although the lily-livered Delaware Diocese does nothing about it.   

President Biden, even as a VP and Delaware's Senator, loves to gadabout on Ash Wednesday and show his loyal Catholic ashes to all the world.  Not that there's anything wrong with that but Catholics are very pro-life, everyone knows that.  Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden are very vocal by their very public political stance on the matter about being  pro-choice.

The church has the right to deny sacraments to those supposed to be Catholic yet espousing and preaching public stances that are against the Catholic church beliefs.

Oddly, it would seem that the San Francisco Catholic Diocese has more courage to stick to the rules than the Delaware Diocese.

And some might say this is not a good public act by the Catholic church and I ponder that myself.  God can take care of them when they stand at the Golden Gate for Judgment.

But if you've got rules, either adhere to them or get rid of them.

Nancy was a perfect Catholic school student, I remember her well.  She wore perfectly pleated school uniforms to attend St. Leo's church in Baltimore's Little Italy.  I went with my father to work on updating her house.  Her father (and later, her brother) was Mayor of Baltimore

Was interviewed by Oprah Winfrey, shared a cigarette at the Delaware State Fair with Beau Biden and was childhood acquaintance of Nancy Pelosi.

Good anecdotes but not anything I'm especially proud of .

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Mike Pence says he will consider run against Trump for President.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/05/23/pence-trump-president-2024/9895534002/

KENNESAW, Ga. – Former Vice President Mike Pence served notice Monday that he may seek the White House himself in 2024 – regardless of whether Donald Trump himself runs again.

“We’ll go where we’re called,” Pence told The New York Times in an interview published Monday.
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This is pure gossip but it makes me smile all to hell.

Does Mike Pence think he has one bit of a shot to beat Trump?  I would vote for most any Democrat you could name before I'd vote for Pence.

Pence betrayed Trump and the entire GOP base and for that, by me, he will never be forgiven.
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Mass Shooting of School Children in Texas


Salvador Ramos

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How the Uvalde shooting unfolded

On Tuesday morning, Ramos shot his 66-year-old grandmother in the head at their residence, and she was able to run across the street and call police, Steve McCraw, director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, said. She was taken to the hospital via helicopter and is still in critical condition, he said.

Ramos drove about 2 miles to Robb Elementary in his grandmother's truck crashing the vehicle outside the school, McCraw said. He exits the vehicle with a backpack and rifle, authorities said.
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As I am typing this, on 5/26/22, the story of this horrible and incredibly sad event is still being  investigated.  But I wanted to get the event documented on this week but more questions will be answered in later columns.

The shooter was a nut job who shot his grandmother in the face then somehow got into a locked classroom at a Texas elementary school and methodically shot and killed 19 4th graders and 2 teachers.

The background of how this all came down is very confusing.  Our magnificent media didn't do their jobs and soon the American public was hearing about phantom cops who turned up first then  turned invisible and never existed.

But this country is shocked, saddened and very confused.  

And yet Biden already wants to take away guns from innocent gun owners.  Tomorrow he will be blaming Putin.
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Review "The Good Dish"


ABC-Weekdays, at 10 am.

The Good Dish: With Daphne Oz, Gail Simmons, Jamika Pessoa,  Simple shortcuts, everyday recipes and trends that will make life easier, ...
We do this review in honor of Daphne Oz's father, Mehmet Oz.  He is, as of this writing, in the lead for the Penna. GOP nomination for senator.  By PA standards as I am to understand, recounts are required for victories under a certain percentage.  So Dr. Oz will have to endure a vote recount but I really think he will win.

As for the show that replaced the Dr. Oz show at the time and the channel above, let us discuss.

The show features three women who seem to make a great team.  Let us not fool ourselves, Daphne Oz the boss of the show, generally doing the longer narratives and author of her own cookbook.

The Good Dish also features celebrities who come on and do their own cooking.  It is intriguing to watch Kristen Chenowith make an omelet.  She might even sing a tune.

I do enjoy cooking shows and this is one of the best.  Sometimes they make easy dinner meals, sometimes holiday meals, sometimes some outdoor cooking.

This cooking show is not so difficult to follow the recipe I might add.  It features normal, every day family type meals.  Written recipes are available on the show's web site.
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TIME FOR A SMILE




6 posted on 05/29/2022 4:47:27 AM PDT by Fishtalk (https://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Alas Babylon!
As AB says this is the time to honor our fallen soldiers,those that gave it all up for God and country.One day is hardly enough.

THese guys are ready to give it all up as well:


7 posted on 05/29/2022 4:57:10 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

great stuff bud.


8 posted on 05/29/2022 4:57:28 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!!)
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To: Fishtalk
RE: Nancy Pelosi being denied the Eucharist: About time. And just one dem getting on the list makes the list too short.

Joe Biden might pretend he is a Faithful Catholic, but please remember that his son Hunter has converted into being a Crystal Methodist.

9 posted on 05/29/2022 5:12:49 AM PDT by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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They are as “Catholic” as Bergoglio.


10 posted on 05/29/2022 5:14:34 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Alas Babylon!
THIS WEEK (ABC): Hosted by Little Georgie Steponallofus: Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.); Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.).

Now that Adam's time is running out, it appears he is looking for new things to do. Since I live in the district he is supposed to represent, I expect to see him competing with the guy who stands at the traffic light by the local Walmart begging for cash. Of course, that would require that Adam remember how to get around the district he is supposed to represent without relying on GPS.

11 posted on 05/29/2022 5:16:58 AM PDT by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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Excellent piece as good as it gets!

It is always the same solution to every issue to a fresh pile of bodies, take away more of your Rights. Just as they want to take the Right of Life from a baby in the womb, which is still the deadliest place in America, their solution to this is take away your Right to protect yourself. They already have taken your Right to freedom during the lockdowns and on it goes.

The Communist Party very likely killed north of 10 million Americans during the Scamdemic while destroying the world stealing the Presidency. This was a digital coup using a very sophisticated cartel stretching around the four corners of the world. Everyone lost except Big Pharma, Big Medical and the DNC, they all won by getting more wealthy and powerful while the rest of the country is now paying the price.

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At the core of it all making life far worse than it has to be and covering big pharma and the commie govt. of obmaa III are corrupt lawyers.

They are the ones that have kept Trump out of office and may be the ones creating havoc at one of the few TV nets once willing to cover news fair and balanced but now running scared.

For two days now I have researched the News Corp and FNC and it's leadership trying to figure why they are sabotaging what we know to be "truth".

I think I hit on it but could easily have missed something.If I have please point it out.

Here it is:

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I think I found out what is going on over at FNC. I'm not 100% sure but 80% at least. Usually, it's about the money. Remember the old slogan follow the money? I think that still applies to FNC.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/suzanne-scott-fox-news-25th-anniversary-1235025880/

Since the election, some of Trump's most ardent supporters on the network, including Pirro and Maria Bartiromo, have faded from prominence while others like Lou Dobbs and his equally incendiary Fox Business Network colleague Trish Regan have been jettisoned entirely.

“If they went down that path of Rudy Giuliani and election fraud, it would have been a short-term win,” Krakauer says, “but at what  cost?” That question may soon be answered by the courts: Fox News’ coverage of Trump's election fraud misinformation campaign(from the link not me) has resulted in multiple lawsuits.

(remember this piece written by far left hollywoodreporter.com)

Voting technology firms Dominion and Smartmatic filed defamation lawsuits this year asking for $1.6 billion and $2.7 billion in damages, respectively. Fox Corp. has moved to dismiss both suits.(FNC knows the machines were used in massive voter fraud were hacked and used to change the vote. They have to. But, most likely think they can't win in a court that is controlled by obama)

In August, a New York state judge expressed some skepticism toward Fox's bid to dismiss the Smartmatic suit, which in addition to Fox Corp. and Giuliani, names lawyer Sidney Powell, Dobbs, Bartiromo and Pirro.

Meanwhile, in October 2020, the network reached a reported seven-figure settlement with the parents of murdered Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich over an online report about a bogus conspiracy theory that Rich was behind the DNC email dump to WikiLeaks during the 2016 presidential campaigns.(Everything Rich did was real and the DNC was behind his death FNC has to know by now--once again they think they can't win in a biased court case)

Those involved in the report were terminated and the site has been overhauled. Scott,(Suzanne Scott CEO of FNC) will not say anything about the pending suits or the settlement with the Rich family, including why the company insisted on a clause to keep the settlement secret until after the 2020 presidential election.

Here's the problem for FNC. You have basically excellent mgmt. of FNC with 25 year employee CEO Suzanne Scott. She came up the ranks and is well respected by most. Yeah, she's a blonde and look who FNC hires and yeah women play a bigger role in the company but when you have a CEO like Scott who accounts for over 50% of the holding companys profits she rules.

Also,her office is only steps from one of the other two Newscorp rulers Lachlan Murdoch.The other ruler being his father 90 year old Rupert.

The other son James is not much of a player these days. Although, his wife did come up with 100 million for her cause which is climate change. Someone brainwashed the sh_t out of her somewhere along the line and she's been a hardcore lib ever since.

Lachlan,a brilliant guy all round,even climbs rocks, appears to be the heir apparent.He appears to have a good relationship with FNC CEO Suzanne Scott.

The company,FNC, under the reign of Scott, appears to leave most show hosts alone. Instead of issuing commands from above she let's people know her take on issues and leaves the rest up to them. The fact that she won't hesitate to right a wrong as she sees it leaves a message for most show hosts.

My guess again is that since FNC is on the losing side of issues/law suits, like Seth Rich which was a no-brainer. He was executed by Hillary for giving up the entire DNC inside info to the world. When you lose that one you know the fix is in and the law is being subverted ignored. Is this the signal that FNC employees need to be vaxed and that election fraud does not exist? These people are not stupid and have access to the most current info and intel and know at least if not more than we do. Do top mgmt. of Suzanne Scott and Lachlan Murdoch see all kinds of other 7 figure law suits in the works if they tell the truth?Are they now doing things to protect the company that they would never do in an honest environment?

It's likely.

Back to the Murdoch family which is loosely the pattern for an HBO show/series called "Succession" accd. to many.It's very well done,who knows how accurate.

At Newscorp there have always been three players:

Rupert the founder and the sons Lachlan and James. James is currently out of favor and swings to the left with his wife a far lefty.

That leaves Rupert 90 and Lachlan who basically will run the show one day. Currently I would bet the old man still has his say and may still be a huge player.

After all it's hard to ignore a guy with 17 billion in his wallet.His wealth may also be a magnet for hungry lawyers on the make for quick and easy law suits or even bigger cases. Historically, the Murdochs have been ardent capitalists,IMHO, and profits are the mothers' milk of the corp.

When the prize profit maker,FNC faces the potential for law suit after law suit prudent mgmt. will most likely do what is necessary to avoid such a calamity.

So if FNC is seen as heading to the left and appeasing this guy and that guy going after some conservatives,it may just help them avoid some very costly law suits. Are they happy with having to go this route,most likely not.

The reason they feel forced to do this could be the same reason that Trump is not potus today. The fix is in by the hard left. They,hard left, have covered every legal base that needs to be covered and until the mid-terms when the good guys take back at least partial control FNC may have no other alternative than to do what has to be done to avoid massive law suits that are unwinnable under any circumstances.

At least this is the main argument I can find that let's them somewhat off the hook. It's obvious that as slick as the founder and his son Lachlan and Scott are they totally understand that there was massive election fraud and that the bio-weapon shots are bogus as hell. But, if they can't win those arguments in court and the end result is they get their collective asses sued over and over what choice do they really have?


12 posted on 05/29/2022 5:23:00 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!!)
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To: Bernard

First of all, have a pleasant yet appropriately somber Memorial Day. I honor all those who died for my country.

So I’m thinking there’s going to be a lot of discussion over the big rush to attempt rescue of the 19 students who were killed and why it went so horribly.

There are still a few things that confuse me about that whole thing.

First, the damn door. A teacher allegedly opened the door and wedged it open. At some point she then closed the door but that school door didn’t automatically lock. Which is how the shooter got in the door.

I’ve been in arguments with some folks over what happened as occurs on FreeRepublic from time to time and I was told to put away my aluminum hat. I was speculating on this forum like everybody else in America was doing when it all went down on forums of their own. At that time it was being reported everywhere that the school security cop showed up but was proved not true later.

So I speculated that maybe the teacher was leaving the door open for this guy as he went outside for a cigarette.

That’s when another wonderful, kind and sweet Freeper told me to take off my aluminum hat because why have a pleasant discussion when it’s more fun to be nasty.

At any rate....well yeah why on earth did those cops not barge in at the sound of gunfire? As I understand, they are trained to interfere when there is an active shooter. Because when someone is actively shooting people those people won’t live very long if someone does not intercede.

Why on earth did 19 cops wait in hallway and allow those kids and two teachers to die?


13 posted on 05/29/2022 5:26:54 AM PDT by Fishtalk (https://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Fishtalk
Great stuff Fish.
ON the Texas shooting there remain a bunch of unanswered questions.Such as why officers stood around while parents were being restrained from going into the school and trying to rescue their kids.
Why a teacher who made a cell phone call left the door toe the classroom wide open for the gunman,whey all the many incidents of the shooter over the years were ignored,and many more its endless.Many think most of these shootings are basically planned and all part of a three letter intel group using MKultra and other issues with amanly in the hopper ready to go like this one:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/law-abiding-west-virginia-woman-concealed-firearm-stops-mass-shooting#:~:text=Law%2DAbiding%20West,dozens%20of%20people%3F

Law-Abiding West Virginian Woman With Concealed Firearm Stops A Mass Shooting
Tyler Durden’s Photo
BY TYLER DURDEN
SATURDAY, MAY 28, 2022 - 08:45 AM
Instead of waiting for the police to arrive, a woman with a concealed carry license in West Virginia acted fast to stop a crazed man with an AR-15-style rifle who was about to kill dozens of people at a graduation party.

“Instead of running from the threat, she engaged with the threat and saved several lives last night,” Charleston Police Department Chief of Detectives Tony Hazelett told local news WCHSTV.

The incident occurred Wednesday when Dennis Butler,37, was angered by a group of people hosting a graduation party who told him to slow down through an apartment complex in Charleston. He returned 30 minutes later, parked his vehicle, jumped in the backseat, and discharged his weapon toward the group of 30-40 people.

Unbeknownst to the shooter, a law-abiding citizen with a CCW was within the group and quickly drew her weapon and engaged Bulter with direct fire, fatally wounding him.

The answer of course is not to concentrate on the gun but the person.In this case there were two people with guns one crazed the other rational.The rational person saved the day,we need more of that.

14 posted on 05/29/2022 5:32:24 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!!)
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To: Fishtalk
Just on Free Republic, I've seen a lot of threads about the police units involved and much speculation about what actually happened versus what should have happened. It looks like it might take a long time to get an accurate reporting on this, and by that time everyone will have moved on to the next crisis, whatever that might be.

The basic issue appears to be that, in prior times, the police understood that the reason they are on the payroll is to protect society from monsters and act accordingly. That appears to have changed in recent times, to reflect society's current mood.

15 posted on 05/29/2022 5:36:36 AM PDT by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Chris Murphy (D for Dumbass - CT). He makes Dickie BloomingIdiot look smart....


16 posted on 05/29/2022 5:44:14 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (I'm the ones trying to save Ameriying toocan Democracy...Donald Trump 6/21 at the NCGOP convention! )
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To: Bernard

I’d rather trust the person hanging at the Walmart begging for money, rather than Adam. The guy would buy a beer with it, Adam would give it to some GLOBALIST group...


17 posted on 05/29/2022 5:50:35 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (I'm the ones trying to save Ameriying toocan Democracy...Donald Trump 6/21 at the NCGOP convention! )
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To: Bernard

A lot of talk about the classroom door with officers not making entry. I’ve heard nothing about the classroom windows. I’ve never seen a windowless classroom.


18 posted on 05/29/2022 5:53:18 AM PDT by animal172 (This ain't the country I grew up in.)
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To: Bernard

Part of that has been—and still is—being driven by the Left, the DNCMedia and the Judiciary system.

First of all, the Left HATES the police. Whether it’s just the useful idiots who believe, as Lebron James actually said “Sometimes I wonder when a police officer leaves his house saying that today is going to be the end for one of these Black people” or actual criminals who don’t like the fact that committing crimes could get you arrested by the police to the BLM grifters race baiting for cash, the Left really does hate the police.

Secondly, the DNCMedia LOVE to second guess EVERYONE and spend hours on useless speculation on what went down when their grasp of the facts is usually less than the average person. For example, try explaining to them what an “assault weapon” is versus is NOT. In any case, if it bleeds it leads is the mantra for them. And if that bleeding can be blamed on the Right and/or racism, why jump right in, facts be damned!

Finally, the Judicial system is very afraid of the Leftist mob and will go out of their way to avoid a Los Angeles 1992 race riot when the cops who beat a PCP-enraged Rodney King until he submitted where acquitted of police brutality. They would have got less grief if they just shot him. Regardless of this, the judges will throw a police officer’s rights out the window to placate the mob.

So why would anyone in this climate want to be a police officer, when any quick decisive action might well get you fired, charged and even jailed?

I wouldn’t.


19 posted on 05/29/2022 5:57:18 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Ironically,it seems F.Chuck Schumer had legislation ready to go right after the Texas shooting,quite the coindence?


20 posted on 05/29/2022 6:05:44 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!!)
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