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Orchestrating a Mass Shooting Event
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| 5/28/2022
| By Laz A. Mataz
Posted on 05/28/2022 11:04:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz
IMPORTANT NOTE: In the effort to prevent the shooters from getting additional notoriety, I will refer to them, not by name, but as the Buffalo shooter and the Uvalde shooter, respectively.
Quite some time ago, after Sandy Hook's school shooting in 2012, then after another school shooting at Umpqua Community College in October of 2015, I began to be suspicious of the frequency and the targets of these shootings. I wrote an editorial titled "Thinking the unthinkable: A case for orchestration". In it, I explored the possibility that the mass shootings were being orchestrated and enabled by members of certain three-letter federal agencies. During the discussion that followed, one individual wrote something that stood out:
jsanders2001: what most people don’t know is that I have experience and training in influencing people using non-verbal / semantic techniques to get them to do what I want them to do as part of my training as an operative in another life. Propaganda and event / psychological manipulation are very real tools used by many law enforcement, investigative and/ or national security agencies, particularly the CIA. This would not be beyond the Obama administration at all given their anti-gun stance nor would it be difficult.
Intrigued, I asked how it might have been accomplished. jsanders2001 did not disappoint: He laid out a six-part set of instructions.
jsanders2001: "Its all psychological manipulation with a little assistance from operatives. Just an example of how it could be pulled off...
1. Set the goal - create mass shooting at X location.
2. Identify target matching psychological profile that would carry out the act. Example - troubled college student with psycholoical problems that is unconfident, has relatiobship problems, one parent family, has anger issues, pays attention or has commented on social problems in social media, is under psychologists’s care, is on psychotropic drugs
3. Engage target online speaking to issues that anger him acting setting up a profile that appears as the perfect adversary; if he is black, be white supremist; make statements will provoke him over and over into it forments into rage. Make him feel inferior like you are looking down on him. Dare him.
4. Ensure that he gets access to a gun via using an operative who is a plant that befriends him using a cover as a student. Plant thoughts that he needs to buy one for self ptotection from the white supremist buddy. Show him websites that feed the hatred and violence to solve his “problem” (other white people).
5. Create emotional disturbances and events that will cause hime to need to unleash. If he has a girlfriend steer her to a white man. She dumps him. He now wants revenge.
6. Make sure he takes his meds...
"In other words steer him right down the channel to the target incident. All the while he is being monitored and evaluated to ensure that he is manipulated to commit acts if violence that he feels are justified in his drug addled state..."
This was disturbing to hear, but it sounded credible and plausible. If we review certain data points around the Buffalo and the Uvalde school shootings, some of the points that jsanders2001 wrote seemed to align:- Two unnamed boys were arrested in 2018 for planning a Columbine-style shooting at Uvalde school that was supposed to occur in 2022. This would allow an operative to identify a 'candidate' well in advance of grooming.
- Buffalo shooter cut the heads off cats. An expert on animal abuse stated that Cat decapitation should have prompted risk exam of Tops gunman.
... and....
- Uvalde shooter also tortured animals, with the 18-year-old suspect, Salvador Ramos, allegedly boasting about how he did it "all the time," Animal abuse is an action very common to sociopaths. This also would allow an operative to ensure they had the right caliber of actor.
- And the single most direct piece of evidence linking jsanders 'orchestration instructions' to the events that transpired: Authorities investigating if retired federal agent knew of Buffalo mass shooting plans in advance... Authorities believe the former agent – believed to be from Uvalde – was one of at least six individuals who regularly communicated with accused gunman Payton Gendron in an online chat room where racist hatred was discussed, the two officials said. Personally, I would question if the agent was indeed 'retired', or perhaps still contracting with the agency. In any event, that agent, retired or not, would be bound to alert those who could have intervened. The fact that there was no alert issued tells me that there is a distinct possibility this agent was a provocateur.
- Finally, a Freeper came to me personally, and shared some interesting points. That Freeper lived in the area in which the Buffalo shooting occurred, and among other points, let me know that:
- This area is in the 'hood', and a white person like the Buffalo shooter would have stood out a great deal while he reconnoitered the planned scene, and
- That a white individual was thrown out of Tops the day before, as he was being disruptive, and
- That a relative of this Freeper states that she saw this white individual as they reconnoitered the scene, and that he was accompanied by a second white individual. A handler, perhaps?
It would be interesting to continue to investigate the circumstances of these shootings to see if there are any more points that align with the 'orchestration instructions' we've been made privy to. There are also interesting facts that surround the Uvalde shooting. While they don't correlate to the 'orchestration instructions', they still bear mentioning. There are several that seem to be peculiar and defy probability: - A teacher propped open a door one minute before the shooter crashed his grandmothers truck, and six minutes before the shooter entered the school. Now, personally, I wouldn't suspect that this teacher was in any way aware or participatory in the events, but it just seems weird that this would have played out as it did, especially with the tight timing.
- We also have the curious non-response of the police, who spent over an hour milling about the outside of the school rather than confronting the shooter. Many times, even a superficial gunshot wound can be fatal if enough time is allowed for the victim to 'bleed out'. If the police had engaged the shooter, there is a chance that he would have been forced to give enough ground to retrieve the wounded. At any rate, it certainly would have occupied his attention enough to minimize the amount of attention he could place on killing more students.
- Further, we were told that the police prevented parents from making a desperate attempt to rescue their children, even as they (so say the unconfirmed rumors) went in to retrieve their own children.
- Finally, there is a report that, on May 26th, a woman with a pistol killed a man who apparently was attempting a mass shooting. The timing is a little suspect. Was this intended to be a third mass shooting within ten days, to further catapult gun control into the national legislative agenda?
In his second term, a gun-control-frustrated Obama said that unless strict gun control was adopted, that the mass shootings would continue at the present frequency, and even increase. It always seemed to me that it was less of a warning, and more of a promise. We have those who would impose gun control erroneously stating that mass violence either occur only in America, or occur with much greater frequency. None other than Politifact, who has a leftward bias, has marked this claim as "Mostly False".
Naturally, leftist publications are quick to pooh-pooh the idea that these shootings were orchestrated, calling it "a far right conspiracy theory", and asserting that "On ... fringe platforms where the far right gather, many asserted without evidence that it was a "false flag" operation staged by federal authorities to justify tighter control of guns.
Well, NPR, are you so willing to claim that this editorial is entirely without evidence? Certainly, I cannot cite an email or the transcript of a meeting where this is planned, but no one can claim that I am presenting no evidence. When enough data points align, one must be at least open to the idea that these events are orchestrated by an external force.
TOPICS: FReeper Editorial; News/Current Events
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To: jacknhoo
Good work Lazamataz. What we need are whistleblowers.We had one, the fellow I referenced at the beginning of the piece.
I know what you mean, though: We need active participant whistleblowers.
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posted on
06/01/2022 4:45:42 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(ELON MUSK IS THE CORPORATE VERSION OF DONALD TRUMP!)
To: Lazamataz
To: SaveFerris
I’m just shaking my head at someone propping the door open, amidst reports of gunfire. There are now reports the door was closed and the latch did not work. This is fairly common on seldom used doors.
Hardening schools is not the answer.
To: marktwain; All
I’m just shaking my head at someone propping the door open, amidst reports of gunfire. There are now reports the door was closed and the latch did not work. This is fairly common on seldom used doors.
Hardening schools is not the answer.
To: dadgum
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posted on
06/01/2022 5:13:44 PM PDT
by
dadgum
(Overjoyed to be the Pariah.)
To: Lazamataz
Actually, in this case, the police were seconds away... but were prevented from doing their jobs. According to your time line, they were somewhere between 2-5 minutes away. That is very fast, compared to most rampage shootings.
To: marktwain
What would be good would be armed security and local police who might actually do their jobs.
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posted on
06/01/2022 6:05:51 PM PDT
by
SaveFerris
(The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
To: generally; Chode; SkyDancer; Salamander; carriage_hill; Lockbox; MtnClimber; nascarnation; ...
MKU is like Project Blue Book, only the name changes.
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06/01/2022 11:38:04 PM PDT
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mabarker1
((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !)
To: mabarker1
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06/02/2022 12:18:44 AM PDT
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Salamander
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To: mabarker1
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posted on
06/02/2022 6:05:06 AM PDT
by
Chode
(there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
To: dragnet2
Past job... Interagator or something like that.
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posted on
06/04/2022 10:17:53 AM PDT
by
Mathews
(It's all gravy, baby!)
To: Lazamataz; Tilted Irish Kilt; Pollard; Roman_War_Criminal; SaveFerris; null and void
In his second term, a gun-control-frustrated Obama said that unless strict gun control was adopted, that the mass shootings would continue at the present frequency, and even increase. It always seemed to me that it was less of a warning, and more of a promise. When the left warns us about something, it’s looking like it’s always a promise instead.
And we should take note. They are “warning” us about food shortages and brownouts and rolling blackouts.
They’re “warning” us of more epidemics of both Covid and monkey pox.
They are warning us of computer chip shortages and fuel shortages and supply chain disruptions.
It behooves us to be as ready for the next few years as possible.
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posted on
06/04/2022 11:10:56 AM PDT
by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
To: generally
My theory on the open door is that like so many in public spaces, the lock didn’t catch when it closed.
I’m not sure why we don’t know the facts. You probably remember from school, there was always one door that you really had to pull on to get closed.
The teacher ran inside, too freaked out to check it.
To: metmom
Your thoughts are all on-target.
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posted on
06/04/2022 12:18:10 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
To: Lazamataz
LIHOP? Or a MIHOP operation? Also, the Uvalde incident occuring days before the big NRA convention in Houston? Most of the anti gun rallies seem too, shall we say choreographed to be considered spontaneous and organic. Some call it conspiracy mongering. I call it PATTERN RECOGNITION
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posted on
06/04/2022 2:59:40 PM PDT
by
Impala64ssa
(If a liar's pants really did catch on fire CBC, ABC, CNN and MSNBC would be more fun to watch)
To: Impala64ssa
LIHOP? Or a MIHOP operation? Also, the Uvalde incident occuring days before the big NRA convention in Houston? Most of the anti gun rallies seem too, shall we say choreographed to be considered spontaneous and organic. Some call it conspiracy mongering. I call it PATTERN RECOGNITIONExactly. I had one naysayer on this thread, "Fury", but that's way down from the many I used to have before.
People are starting to wake up.
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posted on
07/04/2022 3:15:47 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
To: Lazamataz
I'll be at one of 'em!!!
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posted on
07/19/2022 5:29:02 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Gen.Blather
You left out the “No suicides by police allowed on this property”.
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posted on
07/19/2022 5:34:25 AM PDT
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Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Elsie
I'll be at one of 'em!!!You better be at one of them with your CCW weapon, so that you can drop the bad guy.
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posted on
07/19/2022 5:45:23 AM PDT
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Lazamataz
(The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
To: Lazamataz
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07/19/2022 5:53:52 AM PDT
by
Lurker
(Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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