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Stop the Denial: Ukraine Is a Proxy War That Will Lead to Wider World War
NOQReport ^ | May 19, 2022 | Brandon Smith

Posted on 05/19/2022 9:44:27 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: who_would_fardels_bear

That is the deal Rome made with the German tribes until the German tribes sacked Rome.


41 posted on 05/19/2022 11:54:48 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: TheConservator

Old Russian saying: “Everything really important happens in Europe, always has, always will.”


42 posted on 05/19/2022 12:00:22 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: WMarshal
Americans are facing enslavement and economic devastation here at home and some idiots on this forum want to fight a war overseas in the Ukraine.

This comes up all the time, so once again, we can have enemies home and abroad at the same time. As, for "fight a war overseas in Ukraine", I see no one seriously calling for US troops on the ground in Ukraine. The Ukrainians are quite willing to fight the Russians, they just want weapons. Its called a proxy war, we have had a number of them.

43 posted on 05/19/2022 12:07:49 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: tlozo
"This comes up all the time, so once again, we can have enemies home and abroad at the same time. As, for "fight a war overseas in Ukraine", I see no one seriously calling for US troops on the ground in Ukraine. The Ukrainians are quite willing to fight the Russians, they just want weapons. Its called a proxy war, we have had a number of them.

Only an idiot would think that funding a proxy war would not make inflation skyrocket even higher than it is when it is already at a 50 year high. You are either fooling yourself or lying, which is it?

44 posted on 05/19/2022 12:29:35 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: tlozo

My previous challenge to you to name one war that the Princesses of the Pentagon have won in the last 50 years sure shut you up. Come now, enlighten us with your wisdom.


45 posted on 05/19/2022 12:31:41 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: WMarshal
If we can get a sufficient number of Mexican drug cartel members to join the military, then those who survive the NATO/Russia war (in Ukraine) can use those skills for the Reconquista of California.

Viva La Raza!

46 posted on 05/19/2022 12:33:35 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: WMarshal
My previous challenge to you to name one war that the Princesses of the Pentagon have won in the last 50 years sure shut you up. Come now, enlighten us with your wisdom.

Grenada.

47 posted on 05/19/2022 12:38:26 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: SoConPubbie

The continual connections of Ukraine with the DNC, with the Deep State, with the globalists, and with the US bio-labs, leads me to conclude that this was long planned - and not at all for the given reasons.


48 posted on 05/19/2022 12:58:29 PM PDT by YogicCowboy (I know what I like, and like what I know.)
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To: tlozo

Graneda! LMFAO. The exception proves the rule. A tiny Caribbean island (134.6 sq mi) with estimated population of 112,523.

Fail.


49 posted on 05/19/2022 2:36:23 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Drivelous balderdash


50 posted on 05/19/2022 2:39:19 PM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: MercyFlush

Most of the world is ignoring the sanctions on Russia. They need the energy and food.

China is Russia’s key ally.


51 posted on 05/19/2022 3:15:19 PM PDT by kabar
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To: WMarshal
Graneda! LMFAO. The exception proves the rule. A tiny Caribbean island (134.6 sq mi) with estimated population of 112,523.

Valid answer to your stupid question. Maybe next time, further modify your question to include only large conflicts otherwise you look stupid when someone answers your question.

My previous challenge to you to name one war that the Princesses of the Pentagon have won in the last 50 years sure shut you up-WMarshal

52 posted on 05/19/2022 3:25:01 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: Dr. Sivana

If the strategy is to make Russia a pariah by declaring economic war on them using sanctions, it will not work. Those 80% of the world’s population need Russian energy, food, and fertilizer. It is a matter of survival.

The realization that we are going to see widespread famine this summer and fall has finally dawned on the Masters of the Universe. The impact of rising energy and food costs will affect everyone including the richest 20%.

Sending $56 billion to Ukraine to prolong the war will just increase the damage globally for the poor and middle class. We are being led down a primrose path to economic ruin by the Illegitimate, criminal Biden Administration.


53 posted on 05/19/2022 3:32:25 PM PDT by kabar
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To: tlozo
Again - you answered “Grenada,” not me. When I called you out for the stupidity of your answer you did not rise to the challenge with a better answer, you just resorted to mocking the question. You took the loser route because you have nothing. It is pathetic Tlozo. Consider yourself humiliated.

Only an idiot would want to go to war with a nuclear power when we are being led by brain dead Biden and our current crop of woketard generals.

54 posted on 05/19/2022 3:37:25 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: WMarshal
Consider yourself humiliated.

I answered your question with a valid answer, and I am humiliated? Okay.

55 posted on 05/19/2022 3:43:11 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: kabar

“China is Russia’s key ally.”

Really?

How many tanks has China sent to Russia?
How many planes has China sent to Russia?
How many BMPs has China sent to Russia?
How many artillery pieces has China sent to Russia?
How many men has China sent to Russia?

None.


56 posted on 05/19/2022 3:53:19 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce. ☭☭☭)
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To: MercyFlush

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/russia-and-china-unveil-a-pact-against-america-and-the-west

Russia and China Unveil a Pact Against America and the West
In a sweeping long-term agreement, Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping, the two most powerful autocrats, challenge the current political and military order.

Agreements between Moscow and Beijing, including the Treaty of Friendship of 2001, have traditionally been laden with lofty, if vague, rhetoric that faded into forgotten history. But the new and detailed five-thousand-word agreement is more than a collection of the usual tropes, Robert Daly, the director of the Kissinger Institute on China and the United States, at the Wilson Center, in Washington, told me. Although it falls short of a formal alliance, like nato, the agreement reflects a more elaborate show of solidarity than anytime in the past. “This is a pledge to stand shoulder to shoulder against America and the West, ideologically as well as militarily,” Daly said. “This statement might be looked back on as the beginning of Cold War Two.” The timing and clarity of the communiqué—amid tensions on Russia’s border with Europe and China’s aggression around Taiwan—will “give historians the kind of specific event that they often focus on.”


57 posted on 05/19/2022 4:16:26 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

That’s nice. I’m sure the pact document looks all shiny and official.

So tell me now...

How many tanks has China sent to Russia?
How many planes has China sent to Russia?
How many BMPs has China sent to Russia?
How many artillery pieces has China sent to Russia?
How many men has China sent to Russia?


58 posted on 05/19/2022 4:25:39 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce. ☭☭☭)
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To: tlozo
"I answered your question with a valid answer, and I am humiliated? Okay" Tlozo whined like a little bitch.

Again, you don't have an answer except Grenada, the other superpower. After a humiliating debacle of a withdrawal in Afghanistan you want to take on a nuclear power. That is a sad display of insane stupidity.

59 posted on 05/19/2022 4:35:23 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: kabar
“This is a pledge to stand shoulder to shoulder against America and the West, ideologically as well as militarily,”

I'm sure this war has been an eye opener for China. China now knows they can't count on Russia to carry the burden in Europe, let alone help in the Pacific, should a "World War" occur. Had Russia's invasion gone as they (and much of the world) imagined, it would have had a significant impact on the global balance of power.

“This statement might be looked back on as the beginning of Cold War Two.”

There is no doubt our arming of Ukraine before the war, along with the pain those weapons have inflicted, has massively damaged our relations with Russia. China will not be so quick to make enemies, as they prefer economic warfare over military.

60 posted on 05/19/2022 4:52:08 PM PDT by ETCM
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