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Stop the Denial: Ukraine Is a Proxy War That Will Lead to Wider World War
NOQReport ^ | May 19, 2022 | Brandon Smith

Posted on 05/19/2022 9:44:27 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

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1 posted on 05/19/2022 9:44:27 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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Russia should back down and pull its army back within its own borders.


2 posted on 05/19/2022 9:45:59 AM PDT by Demian
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That is how this has always worked. When the working class population gets a little too unruly and the threat of rebellion against the establishment is at hand, the elites start a war. It’s like clockwork. This tactic weakens the general population, wears down the number of fighting age men that might have otherwise presented a threat to the ruling class and creates enough fear and panic to convince the public to trade away more of their freedoms.

Maybe you've got the cart before the horse... maybe the goal is to gin up citizen rage ... not to distract from it.

3 posted on 05/19/2022 9:50:14 AM PDT by GOPJ (Biden wants borders open to destabilize the county and pit citizens against each other.)
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Russia has to have at least one active ally for this to be a ‘World War’.

Otherwise it’s just going to be forty or so countries allied in the reduction of the Soviet threat.


4 posted on 05/19/2022 9:52:20 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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This is what the cheese eating surrender monkeys said in the 80’s about Afghanistan.

We should let the Soviets conquer any country it wanted lest we have a nuclear WWIII.


5 posted on 05/19/2022 9:59:41 AM PDT by Reaganez
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6 posted on 05/19/2022 10:04:28 AM PDT by kabar
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And we should let the Russians dictate to us about right and wrong when the time comes to finally force action on Mexico. /s

Kudos: You wear your sphincter hat proudly.


7 posted on 05/19/2022 10:04:58 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Reaganez

Where is the evidence that their are American advisors on the ground in Ukraine, much less special forces?


8 posted on 05/19/2022 10:06:06 AM PDT by TheConservator (Beware the tyranny of the woke mob. There has never been a greater threat to liberty.)
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To: MercyFlush

Yes, world wars are the result of alliances dragging other countries into a war. Russia’s alliances broke down 30 years ago and are in a shambles now, and Ukraine has no real allies of their own to speak of. So unless Russia does something supremely stupid like attacking a NATO country, there’s not going to be any “world war”. Even if Russia did that, I don’t think there’s any guarantee that even China would back them up, since China would probably prioritize their own survival and make decisions accordingly.


9 posted on 05/19/2022 10:06:35 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Yep. And now show the map of Russia’s key allies...


10 posted on 05/19/2022 10:08:20 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I can’t figure out exactly why USA neocons and deep-staters have such a hard-on for militarizing Ukraine and are so willing to ensure it is totally destroyed in conflict with Russia.

After WWII, the USA and Soviet Union agreed the Soviets would withdraw from Austria, and the country would be NEUTRAL. Seemingly both sides respected the agreement, Austria had no military alliances, it threatened no one - and it became RICH and STABLE.

US neocons and MIC have absolutely resisted such a path for Ukraine for the last 20 years - and now the place is broken forever.


11 posted on 05/19/2022 10:09:56 AM PDT by PGR88
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If there is a NATO-Russia war I fully expect China to immediately act to ‘protect’ Siberia by annexing it. That’s the extent of what I expect from China.


12 posted on 05/19/2022 10:10:20 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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Putin needs to leave the Ukraine, Georgia and the Crimea.


13 posted on 05/19/2022 10:10:53 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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At the onset of the Russian incursion into Ukraine I argued in my article ‘Order Out Of Chaos: How The Ukraine Conflict Is Designed To Benefit Globalists‘ that US boots would be on the ground within a few months. I was wrong... It means that Russian troops are fighting Ukrainian soldiers that are intermingled with western “advisors”

Author is constantly wrong.

14 posted on 05/19/2022 10:11:37 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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Ukraine is the worlds largest money laundromat, and 8 figure per year employment agency for politicians prodigal sons


15 posted on 05/19/2022 10:13:30 AM PDT by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: MercyFlush

I think the best they could hope for would be for China to attack some US-Nato allies in Asia, like Japan or South Korea. China doesn’t really have the capacity to do much more than that. They couldn’t expect China to help them in Europe any more than Hitler expected help from the Japanese in that sphere.


16 posted on 05/19/2022 10:18:46 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Well Ukraine is a proxy for the globalists. Nevermind the 44 million people of Ukraine who are being used.

And as far as Putin being a proxy for the anti globalist people, he's has of course been a complete and utter failure. Unsurprisingly.

17 posted on 05/19/2022 10:18:48 AM PDT by FreeReign
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The road to WWII started with Japan invading Manchuria.


18 posted on 05/19/2022 10:19:54 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Boogieman

I doubt that China is going to do anything outside the norm. The harm a Western embargo would do the the ‘harmony’ of China would be legendary.

As big a commie as Xi is I doubt that he wants to cripple his own economy to take Taiwan over a point of pride. Were I Xi I’d unilaterally declare Taiwan an independent country and move on. Let some other Chinese leader think about it 50 or 100 years from now.


19 posted on 05/19/2022 10:23:09 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: kabar

Interesting map. It is so obvious, yet more starked when rendered cartographically.

So we are looking at 20% of the people, but about 70% of world GDP.


20 posted on 05/19/2022 10:25:17 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (“SollOZzo is known as 'The Turk.' He's supposed to be very good with a knife,"-T.Hagen)
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