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Michael Sussmann Trial LIVE THREAD
John Haughey ^

Posted on 05/17/2022 6:55:46 AM PDT by janetjanet998

John Haughey of The Epoch Times twitter feed with live updates

John Haughey @JFHaughey58 · 1h Deliberations begin Tuesday morning at the E. Barnett Prettyman U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., in Michael #Sussmann's trial for allegedly lying to the FBI about the #Trump Organization's purported ties to a Russian Bank

There will actually be 16 jurors seated during the trial with four not knowing that they are alternates and will not be "in the room" when the case goes to the jury for a verdict.

Lengthy discussion regarding the infamous #SteeleDossier ...former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele cannot be compelled to testify so the dossier will enter the case tangentially in testimony from several witnesses, including #FusionGPS employee Laura Seago.


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To: janetjanet998
"Lying to the FBI"

Is this charge a joke? Like stealing from a thief.

21 posted on 05/17/2022 8:22:35 AM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Yep typical DC BS.


22 posted on 05/17/2022 8:23:47 AM PDT by ncfool (Joe Biden USSA.. United Socialist state of aMeriKa...... 11.3.2020 - President in waiting Kama-la-la)
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Sarah N. Lynch
@SarahNLynch
The tip about the Alfabank-Trump connections was later debunked. But Sussmann played no role in the actual cyber research itself. As such, the govn’t is not permitted to introduce evidence about whether the data was “fabricated or spoofed,” per Judge Cooper


23 posted on 05/17/2022 8:38:11 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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Martin is saying DNS data itself is not enough to establish connections between domains and IP addresses.

(why did they FBI look into it then?)

Cross-examination of Agent Martin is about to begin


24 posted on 05/17/2022 8:53:07 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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Sarah N. Lynch
@SarahNLynch
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Just because one computer is doing a look up of another site doesn’t mean emails were exchanged, Martin confirms to Sussmann’s lawyer. This data shows “a potential connection,” Sussmann’s lawyer says


25 posted on 05/17/2022 8:54:28 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: janetjanet998

Kabuki. All for show and all to remind we serfs our masters are above the law.


26 posted on 05/17/2022 8:56:41 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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Charlie Savage
@charlie_savage
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Starting with the premise that DNS data doesn’t tell you for sure whether a computer actually communicated with another one, he gets Martin to agree that to actually find out if it happened, you’d need steps like search warrants, subpoenas — i.e. stuff FBI can do


27 posted on 05/17/2022 9:00:19 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: janetjanet998

The United States calls FBI special agent Scott Hellman
He oversees a team of cyber crime investigators at the FBI.


28 posted on 05/17/2022 9:10:19 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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Sarah N. Lynch
@SarahNLynch
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An exhibit shows James Baker, GC for FBI at the time, took initial custody of the evidence turned over by Sussmann, and then it went next to
@petestrzok
before making its way into the custody of several other
@FBI
officials


29 posted on 05/17/2022 9:18:44 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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Sarah N. Lynch
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Hellman says he was upset that in his chain of custody review, he could not determine the source of the thumb drives and other materials. “I was frustrated I was not able to identity of who had provided these thumb drives... to Mr. Baker.”


30 posted on 05/17/2022 9:20:36 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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Sussmann-Durham trial: Prosecution says Clinton lawyer used FBI to create an ‘October surprise’ against Trump

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sussmann-durham-trial-prosecution-clinton-lawyer-fbi-october-surprise-trump


31 posted on 05/17/2022 9:27:02 AM PDT by rdl6989 ( )
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Sarah N. Lynch
@SarahNLynch
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Exhibits on the screen are showing snapshots of some of the allegations about purported Trump Org-Alfabank connections that were shared with the FBI by Sussmann. He provided technical data on thumb drives and accompanying narratives explaining the data


32 posted on 05/17/2022 9:28:13 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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Sarah N. Lynch
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Hellman says he concluded the allegations of a secret communication channel between the Trump Org & Alfabank did not hold water.
“Whoever had written that paper had jumped to some conclusions that were not supported by the technical data,” he said.


33 posted on 05/17/2022 9:32:02 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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Sarah N. Lynch
@SarahNLynch
“There was not enough data there to make the conclusion there was a) any communication or b) secret communications between the Trump Organization and Russia,” Hellman said.


34 posted on 05/17/2022 9:35:17 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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Charlie Savage
@charlie_savage
Hellman explains he and his supervisor were skeptical. They looked at the data & the white paper that accompanied it & disagreed with the methodology/conclusions. Didn’t think it made sense that a secret channel would use a server with Trump’s name on it, connecting directly.


35 posted on 05/17/2022 9:37:45 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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Sarah N. Lynch
@SarahNLynch
Hellman says it would be “abnormal” that a presidential candidate would try to hide his communications with a Russian bank by labeling his domain with the name “Trump.” He also said if there were secret communications, Russia is a sophisticated player that could hide it


36 posted on 05/17/2022 9:41:07 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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John Haughey
@JFHaughey58
Hellman said it took him and another agent less than a day to ascertain the data and “white papers” on two thumb drives Sussmann gave Baker did not support the Trump-Alfa Bank “secret connection” allegation.


37 posted on 05/17/2022 9:46:06 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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Charlie Savage
@charlie_savage
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Hellman says in terms of technical analysis, he would do the same steps regardless of knowing where the data came from. But.../30
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Charlie Savage
@charlie_savage
...In terms of what level of investigation to open, he would want to know who provided the data and with what motivation to figure out how much he trusts the “facts” & whether to gather more info. (He didn’t open investigation bc no hacking; Chicago FBI did - a full, he said)./31


38 posted on 05/17/2022 9:57:05 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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Charlie Savage
@charlie_savage
One of the cybersecurity researchers who developed the Alfa Bank data and analysis and had been on the prosecutors witness list, Manos Antonakakis, has invoked Fifth Amendment so won’t testify, DeFilippis said


39 posted on 05/17/2022 10:51:53 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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This is interesting

Leslie McAdoo Gordon ⚖️ 👠🇺🇸
@McAdooGordon
Interesting tidbit: He was “frustrated” because Baker WOULDN’T tell him who he got the data from! even for the Chain of Custody and the “Greensheet” (FBI form for identifying evidence owners). Baker didn’t complete the Custody form - Hellman initiated it.


40 posted on 05/17/2022 11:03:39 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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