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'Ukraine launches counteroffensive in Izyum' - official
BBC ^ | May 14, 2022 | Sophie Williams Reporting from Lviv

Posted on 05/14/2022 6:15:20 AM PDT by GonzoII

Ukrainian forces have launched a counteroffensive in Izyum, according to Oleh Synegubov, head of the Kharkiv Regional Military Administration.

Speaking in a video posted to telegram, he said that Russian forces were retreating in some directions.

The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has not confirmed the move.

Russia seized control of the city of Izyum on 1 April and has occupied it since.


(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: europe; hahahahahahahahahaha; izyum; lloydaustin; olehsynegubov; putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; russia; seemslegit; sergeishoigu; ukraine; zottherussiantrolls
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1 posted on 05/14/2022 6:15:20 AM PDT by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

I’m hearing that Lloyd Austin called Sergei Shoigu (RU defense minister) yesterday. First contact since before the war.

This, after Austin stating just a few weeks ago that the US objective was to ‘weaken’ Russia.

I have no idea what was discussed, but in my admittedly limited experience, winners don’t call losers.


2 posted on 05/14/2022 6:30:08 AM PDT by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

Surreptitious Flank attack on Ukraine


3 posted on 05/14/2022 6:33:16 AM PDT by bert ( (KW?E. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

Unless they are trying to make an end run around Putin.


4 posted on 05/14/2022 6:35:48 AM PDT by marron
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

Or an end run around Kiev.


5 posted on 05/14/2022 6:36:52 AM PDT by marron
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

Better a little diplomacy than a nuclear war.


6 posted on 05/14/2022 6:36:52 AM PDT by allendale
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To: GonzoII

Though they are currently backing Kiev, I don’t trust the Biden White House or the DeepState.


7 posted on 05/14/2022 6:38:50 AM PDT by marron
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To: allendale
Better a little diplomacy than a nuclear war.

I agree.

8 posted on 05/14/2022 6:55:07 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: allendale

thank you....... hopefully an adult can tone down the cheerleading for war.

This Finish/Swedish NATO thing was one more log on the fire....

Putin is a killer and has no qualms about destroying entire cities and their populace... as well as his own troops.


9 posted on 05/14/2022 6:57:04 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitantes)
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To: GonzoII

Hmmm, just as crucial votes are coming up for the $40B.

Makes sense to me.


10 posted on 05/14/2022 7:00:51 AM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: Dick Vomer

It all turns on the Ukrainians, and by that I mean the people. There is no negotiation without public support, and at the moment they seem to have the bit between their teeth. They seem to smell victory, vengeance, and the end of the war.

Its not possible to negotiate unless the bulk of the population is behind at least the broad strokes of a settlement.

“Leaders” and their courtiers often delude themselves as to their actual power. They can retain this delusion for as long as the population is willing, complacent or apathetic. But not when they are on the march.


11 posted on 05/14/2022 7:04:59 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

Also this action forces puttin to divert resources. Keeps him from doing what he wants.


12 posted on 05/14/2022 7:10:43 AM PDT by refermech
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

Sure they do. How do you think surrender gets negotiated?


13 posted on 05/14/2022 7:10:55 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: GonzoII

“It’s the unconquerable soul of man and not the nature of the weapon he uses which insures victory.”

Patton

“The spot where we intend to fight must not be made known; for then the enemy will have to prepare against a possible attack at several different points.”

SunTzu


14 posted on 05/14/2022 7:12:43 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
"for then the enemy will have to prepare against a possible attack at several different points."

Unless they're to busy running... ;0)

15 posted on 05/14/2022 7:16:41 AM PDT by GonzoII ("If the new crime be, to believe in God, let us all be criminals" -Sheen )
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To: GonzoII

Coming off that big win on Snake Island...


16 posted on 05/14/2022 7:28:16 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: mac_truck

Perhaps you should look at the results of the Battle of Karkiv instead, just saying. 😏


17 posted on 05/14/2022 8:22:20 AM PDT by Salohcin
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To: allendale
"Better a little diplomacy than a nuclear war."

Yeah, rus nazis threathining nukes, episod 147.


18 posted on 05/14/2022 8:33:27 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Dick Vomer
"Putin is a killer"


19 posted on 05/14/2022 8:34:31 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: refermech

Im not sure about that. By far the greatest Russian military concentration is in the area of Izyum. The Ukrainians seem to be attacking into their strength, not weakness. Unless the Ukrainians have some devastating trump card that we dont know yet. Maybe their counterbattery capability is on a level we dont realize yet.


20 posted on 05/14/2022 8:37:44 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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