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Finnish President tells Russia 'You caused this' as he signs security pact with UK
Sky News YouTube Channel ^ | May 11, 2022 | Sky News

Posted on 05/13/2022 7:06:32 PM PDT by Widget Jr

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To: Antioch
Russia actually does have an independent media.

Ok.

41 posted on 05/14/2022 1:05:15 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Czech_Occidentalist
"Tell me when NATO and the West became the bad guys."

NATO accomplished its mission with the fall of the Soviet Union. It should've been promptly disbanded. The West became the bad guys as soon as it embraced Socialist-Communist-Fascist tyranny that it used to fight against, coupled with vigorous anti-Christianity, embrace of degeneracy and immorality. Globalism and Sodomarchy, coupled with pretty clear-cut Satanism.

42 posted on 05/14/2022 11:22:40 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Plugs the Pedo - The Shart Heard 'Round The World)
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To: Czech_Occidentalist

I’ll take him over the fake pope any day of the week.


43 posted on 05/14/2022 11:23:38 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Plugs the Pedo - The Shart Heard 'Round The World)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The West became the bad guys as soon as it embraced Socialist-Communist-Fascist tyranny that it used to fight against, coupled with vigorous anti-Christianity, embrace of degeneracy and immorality. Globalism and Sodomarchy, coupled with pretty clear-cut Satanism.


This did not happen overnight. It has been a gradual process. You can’t say that one day the West was good and the next day it became bad.

Christopher Dawson, for example, sees the roots of the secularization of the West in the Protestant Reformation. Of course, the reformers themselves weren’t secularists, but the Reformation caused a split in European religious culture. Catholic and Protestant intellectuals did not want to stop talking to each other so they avoided religious topics. In this way Western culture gradually became secularized.


44 posted on 05/15/2022 12:28:06 AM PDT by Czech_Occidentalist
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To: Widget Jr

A tough guy huh.


45 posted on 05/15/2022 12:45:16 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Widget Jr

Look, I can do for you what I did for Ukraine.

46 posted on 05/15/2022 12:52:42 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: McGruff

#46. The amount of sarcasm and hyperbole treated as fact around here is getting boring.


47 posted on 05/15/2022 1:00:49 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: patriotfury

It’s possible.


48 posted on 05/16/2022 1:18:43 AM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; All

The current Pope has historically been, and is very close to the Kremlin —

It’s all relevant.

A little background on the ROC before revealing the real relationship between RCC Pope Francis and ROC Patriarch “Kirill”

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First,
ROC is KGB-FSB

A Breitbart Intro —

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/01/11/kgb-christians-putin-stalin-kgbs-history-manipulating-orthodox-church/

“The Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) has been, since its reconstitution during WWII, an instrument of the state. The best illustration of this is probably the 1949 “Greetings from the clergy and laity of the Russian Orthodox Church to the leader of the nations of the USSR, the Generalissimus Joseph Stalin on his 70th birthday.” It states, in part:

“Witnessing at every step your noble efforts to make people’s lives peaceful and happy, we see in your person not only a great statesman and leader, guiding the lives of people in a new direction of history, but also a fatherly, caring trustee of all aspects of our human existence with all its various needs.

The Russian Orthodox patriarch at the time of Putin’s Easter show was patriarch Aleksi II, who died on December 5, 2008. Lt. Gen. (r) Ion Mihai Pacepa, the highest Soviet bloc official to defect to the United States, writes of Aleksi II, “The KGB had carried him under the codename ‘DROZDOV’ and awarded him its Certificate of Honor, as was learned from a KGB archive accidentally left behind in Estonia.”

Additionally, we know more from “original KGB documents known as the Mitrokhin Archive (described by the FBI as the most complete and extensive intelligence ever received from any source).” We also know more “from Politburo documents released by Father Gleb Yakunin, vice chairman of a Russian parliamentary commission that investigated the KGB’s manipulation of the church.”

And with those details in hand, the “election” of a new patriarch in 2009 was quite a sight to behold:

On January 27, 2009, the 700 Synod delegates assembling in Moscow were indeed presented with a slate listing three candidates. All, however, belonged to the secret KGB army: Metropolitan Kirill of Smolensk worked for the KGB under the code name “MIKHAYLOV”; Metropolitan Filaret of Minsk has just been identified as having labored for the KGB under the codename “OSTROVSKY”; Metropolitan Kliment of Kaluga was recently discovered to have been listed under the codename “TOPAZ”.

When the bells at Christ the Savior Cathedral in Moscow announced that a new patriarch had been elected, Metropolitan Kirill, aka “MIKHAYLOV,” proved to be the winner.

Presumably, the KGB/FSB considered him to be in a better position to carry out its tasks abroad, where he had directed his efforts during most of his professional life. In 1971, the KGB had sent him to Geneva (Switzerland) as a representative of the Russian Orthodox Church to the World Council of Churches (WCC), the largest international ecumenical organization after the Vatican, representing some 550 million Christians of various denominations throughout 120 countries.

His task was to use his position in the WCC to spread the doctrine of Liberation Theology—a Marxist religious movement born in the KGB—throughout Latin America. In 1975, the KGB had infiltrated “MIKHAYLOV” into the WCC’s central committee, and in 1989 the KGB had appointed him chairman of the Russian patriarchate’s foreign relations as well—positions he still held when he was “elected” patriarch. Indeed, in his acceptance speech “MIKHAYLOV” announced that he would establish religious television channels in Russia that would broadcast abroad.

Kirill/“MIKHAYLOV” recently attacked the “Godless” Ukrainians – though, according to one journalist (a recipient of the Blessed Karol Wojtyla [Pope John Paul II] prize for excellence in journalism dealing with religious themes), “25% of the population attends Easter services in Ukraine compared to 2% in Russia.”

In November, Kirill/“MIKHAYLOV” asked that Russians “remember positive achievements of the Soviet period”

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ROC FURTHER REVEALED —

The Real ROC has been a powerful instrument of the NKVD/KGB/FSB for over a century —

Worse, neither KGB ROC Patriarch Kirill (Vladimir Mikhailovich Gundyayev), nor his KGB predecessor Alexy II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger), were able to subordinate the UA Orthodox church under Putin’s regime.

ROC has been, and is a very powerful and useful political instrument, from various political and surveillance “angles” -

KGB/FSB ROC - what it really is, for those who actually desire to know the truth, and get a bit closer to understanding what we are really seeing now —
https://fitzinfo.net/2021/09/19/the-kgb-and-the-russian-orthodox-church/amp/

https://www.traditioninaction.org/History/F_009_Kyrill_2.html

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/01/11/kgb-christians-putin-stalin-kgbs-history-manipulating-orthodox-church/

https://www.forbes.com/2009/02/20/putin-solzhenitsyn-kirill-russia-opinions-contributors_orthodox_church.html?sh=1c9e32673bf9

https://thenewamerican.com/putin-defender-of-christian-faith-and-morality/

https://risu.ua/en/calling-patriarch-kirill-a-kgb-agent-is-not-an-insult-—bulgarian-court-decision_n117656

THEN — Putin Rewrites ROC Church History to Justify Taking Ukraine

https://www.godreports.com/2022/02/putin-with-russian-orthodox-church-promoted-re-write-of-church-history-to-justify-invasion-of-ukraine/

Source - -https://www.academia.edu/37152767/The_Mikhailov_Files_Patriarch_Kirill_and_the_KGB

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*NOW RCC AND ROC RELATIONSHIP REVEALED —

Ties between current ROC, RCC, WEF —

Again, Putin has successfully tied the ROC to a former KGB Marxist 1960’s priest named *Jorge Mario Bergoglio (Now Pope Francis) of the RCC and to the World Counsel of Churches, even while “Francis” has on the surface distanced himself due to Putin/Ukraine optics and survival —
http://www.analysis-review.com/catholic-pope-kgb-patriarch-get-together/

https://traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A956-Sch.htm

https://www.catholicamericanthinker.com/Red-Pope.html

https://www.aim.org/aim-column/pope-francis-jihad-and-moscows-espionage-church/

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/liberation-theology-activist-pope-francis-is-one-of-us

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As significantly benefited Moscow through the Kremlin directed U-1 and *Skolkavo Projects, Clinton-Obama acted to replace and install longtime KGB Humanist, Marxist Globalist, Social Marxist proponent RCC-ROC buddy-WCC Pope “Francis”.

https://www.sgtreport.com/2019/09/new-evidence-emerges-that-the-real-reason-pope-benedict-suddenly-retired-was-because-of-end-times-cabal-headed-by-george-soros-barack-obama-and-hillary-clinton/

NOT COMPREHENSIVE, BUT ALL TIED TO Leninist and Putin Bosom Buddy KLAUSE Schwab

https://www.fromrome.info/2021/08/18/vatican-ii-revolution-tied-directly-to-klaus-schwab-of-the-great-reset/ *

Pope Francis was literally at “Ground Zero” of the KGB’s secular Warsaw Pact development, but the development and effort to spread “Liberation theology” and “Social Justice” within the Roman Catholic Church, and through the World Council of Churches.

This was part of the plan to neutralize and “capture” the churches, and to spread societal division, and to necessarily create pervasive sexual perversion throughout Western societies.

Putin himself has long been an admitted and strong global governance proponent and friend of Klause Schwab, as is Xi, but see themselves as ascendant over the structure — as does the EU, or leftists from the US (see Quigley’s, Tragedy & Hope)

Ukraine is a mere proxy and necessary stepping stone in need of re-subordination to Moscow’s 22.5 million km square CIS, and its current Chinese aligned axis, and will get crushed no matter what.


49 posted on 05/16/2022 9:09:06 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: Antioch

Doesn’t matter how Russia brands itself, it’s got a long history of invading the territory where Finland is now. And they smell another round coming.


50 posted on 05/16/2022 9:16:53 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Widget Jr
Meanwhile...

The European Commission is set to offer buyers new guidance on how to pay for gas, satisfying President Vladimir Putin’s demands.

51 posted on 05/16/2022 9:23:26 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: discostu
Doesn’t matter how Russia brands itself, it’s got a long history of invading the territory where Finland is now. And they smell another round coming.

NATO's entire history is about circling and threatening Russia to say nothing about CIA financed color revolution attempts in former Soviet republics, and total economic war for decades. Why was Kennedy a hero for drawing the line at Soviet missiles in Cuba, yet Russia has no right to its security? Because the Pentagram war pigs refuse to try the ONE THING that would work: peaceful coexistence. I'm sure if China was fomenting revolutions in Central America and arming Mexican cartels at our borders, we wouldn't stand for it. This is the same damn situation

52 posted on 05/16/2022 9:39:13 AM PDT by Antioch (Against stupidity even the Gods struggle in vain….)
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To: Antioch

Once you decide you’re going to be the aggressor you’re giving up right to security. And this whole “NATO is a threat” thing is bogus. 20 years ago Putin wanted to join NATO, he just wasn’t willing to do it the “normal” way. This is empire building. Pure and simple. And it’s why allegiances get formed. He’s threatening others. We’ve been doing peaceful coexistance for 30 years, except when Russia invades somebody. They’re breaking the peace, not us.


53 posted on 05/16/2022 9:43:51 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu
We’ve been doing peaceful coexistance for 30 years

Oh Please...You have a military presence in 130 countries and have 900 bases around the world. Then there are the wars: Lebanon, Grenada, Libya, The Tanker War, Panama, Gulf War 1, The first Somali Civil War, the Bosnian War. Haiti, Kosovo, the Iraq War, Afghanistan War, the Yemen war, the Northwest Pakistan Drone war, the second Somaili war, the Syrian CIA war, and the most glorious war of all... The Schwab-Soros-Zelenski world war...

54 posted on 05/16/2022 10:04:44 AM PDT by Antioch (Against stupidity even the Gods struggle in vain….)
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To: Antioch

Oh please, you’re erecting strawmen. The question was NATO and Russia. And Putin just said NATO is not a threat to Russia. So you’re whole argument just go undercut. We’re not a threat. Which he’s just a bully.


55 posted on 05/16/2022 10:13:37 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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