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US intel questioned for misjudging Afghanistan, Ukraine
The Associated Press ^ | May 10, 2022 | By NOMAAN MERCHANT

Posted on 05/10/2022 12:16:24 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

WASHINGTON (AP) — Top U.S. intelligence officials were questioned Tuesday about why they misjudged the durability of governments in both Afghanistan and Ukraine, and whether they need to reform how intelligence agencies assess a foreign military’s will to fight.

U.S. intelligence believed the U.S.-backed Kabul government would hold out for months against the Taliban and thought Russian forces would overrun Ukraine in a few weeks. Both assessments were wrong. The U.S. and Western allies are now rushing to aid Ukraine’s resistance against Russia in what has turned into a grinding, violent stalemate.

“What we missed was the will to fight of the Ukrainians...and we also missed that in Afghanistan,” said Sen. Angus King, an independent from Maine, at a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee. He added, “I realize will to fight is a lot harder to assess than number of tanks or volume of ammunition or something. But I hope the intelligence community is doing some soul-searching about how to better get a handle on that question.”

Avril Haines, the U.S. director of national intelligence, said that “will to fight” and “capacity to fight” in tandem were difficult to predict. The National Intelligence Council, a group of advisers that reviews the agencies as a whole, is studying the issue, she said.

“The two of them are issues that are, as you indicated, quite challenging to provide effective analysis on,” Haines told King. “And we’re looking at different methodologies for doing so.”

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; intel; military; ukraine
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1 posted on 05/10/2022 12:16:24 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They sure did a bang up job rounding up Jan 6 protesters. I mean, two out of three aint’ bad, eh, Meat?


2 posted on 05/10/2022 12:17:53 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

‘t


3 posted on 05/10/2022 12:18:14 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Top U.S. intelligence officials were questioned Tuesday about why they misjudged the durability of governments in both Afghanistan and Ukraine, and whether they need to reform how intelligence agencies assess a foreign military’s will to fight.

Their focus is protecting the DNC and the sinecures of the ruling class, not the United States. John F. Kennedy might have been a mediocre president, but he was dead right about the CIA and other intelligence agencies-- they need to be broken into a million pieces.

4 posted on 05/10/2022 12:20:41 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Add Ukraine to that list too


5 posted on 05/10/2022 12:20:46 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Close them all. Fire everyone.

Start over.

L


6 posted on 05/10/2022 12:23:23 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
U.S. intel didn't "make mistakes," they were just serving their real ma$ter$.

What is the real story behind the Ukraine war? It relates directly to our Afghan exit.

Why did Globo Homo/GAE/NATO/EU deliberately push all of Russia's clearly articulated red-line buttons, intentionally triggering the invasion of Ukraine, the invasion that Russia warned over and over would happen if Ukraine was about to be added to NATO?

And why now, in 2022, when the Ukraine conflict has been simmering since the GAE-sponsored coup in 2014?

IMHO, it's because the GAE/MIC (Military Industrial Complex) needed to find a rapid replacement for Afghanistan, once that billion dollar MIC spigot was turned off.

And the GAE/MIC grifters don’t give a damn if the war materiel ever makes it to the eastern Ukraine battlefields, or if it’s blown up in arsenals or on rail cars or in truck convoys in Western Ukraine. In fact, the longer and more inconclusively the war drags on, the better.

Why? Because all of the war materiel taken from U.S. stocks and sent to Ukraine will be replaced many times over at full cost to the U.S. taxpayer.

The Afghanistan money spigot was turned off, so the Ukraine spigot was turned on.

“War is business, and business is good!”

7 posted on 05/10/2022 12:24:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I wonder if they found Saddam’s yellowcake yet.


8 posted on 05/10/2022 12:25:15 PM PDT by Tupelo (Don't underestimate The Republican Party's ability to f*ck things up)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Really?

From WWI to WWII to Korea, Vietnam to the fall of communism to GWII.

Military intelligence is an oxymoron.

5.56mm


9 posted on 05/10/2022 12:27:00 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: Tupelo

I seem to remember that something like 20-25 barrels of it were found...accidentally, but found..poor bastards weren’t even an N.B.C. equipped outfit, and had nothing but gas masks


10 posted on 05/10/2022 12:31:28 PM PDT by jpp113
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This article clearly shows how screwed up the thinking of so-called conservatives is. Intelligence is not misunderstanding anything. They know exactly what they are doing and its all intentional. How stupid we we are!!!!!!!!


11 posted on 05/10/2022 12:37:40 PM PDT by ritpg (Wise up, folks.http://www.rirtl.org/site/page.php?s=04_00)
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To: All
4873-A200-24-EB-4-D8-B-8298-4946742-A3-A72


What Changed?


$60 Billion later


12 posted on 05/10/2022 12:38:35 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Cornpop was a bad dude)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
said Sen. Angus King, an independent from Maine,

Pfffft. Yeah, I'll bet.

13 posted on 05/10/2022 12:59:18 PM PDT by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

U.S. intelligence gets 10’s of billions a year and couldn’t foresee the dissolution of the Soviet Union?
Failed us on 9-11.
ETC.
Worthless bunch they be.


14 posted on 05/10/2022 1:14:52 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (Kimber .45 )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“...we’re looking at different methodologies for doing so.”
So what have you been doing the last seventy years?


15 posted on 05/10/2022 1:15:55 PM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: Vigilanteman

Indeed.


16 posted on 05/10/2022 1:21:39 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Miss you Rush!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Misjudged? I’d say things have gone pretty much according to their Deep State plan. Ka-ching, Ka-ching!


17 posted on 05/10/2022 1:29:47 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Joe Boucher
Failed us on 9-11.

When flight schools call the FBI reporting suspicious students who were learning to take off but not land and... crickets.

18 posted on 05/10/2022 1:46:13 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Tupelo

“I wonder if they found Saddam’s yellowcake yet.”

They were hidden under the baby incubators.


19 posted on 05/10/2022 1:50:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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“I wonder if they found Saddam’s yellowcake yet.”

It went to Canada in 2008. Hopefully the Big Guy got 10% too. He sure acts like it.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-secretly-takes-yellowcake-from-iraq/

Stop hiding under your bed reading 15-year old Code Pink flyers.


20 posted on 05/10/2022 2:07:04 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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