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To: DoughtyOne

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-megalopolis-x-russia-total-war


8 posted on 05/08/2022 9:09:15 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: Skywise

Heaven’s what a moron’s paradise some of these threads have
become.

Let’s review:

Q: Why did Russia invade the Ukraine?

A: Because the Ukraine was going to join NATO

1. Why didn’t Russia invade Latvia and Estonia who are
already NATO members. They are on Russia’s border.
They’ve been members for some time now.

2. Did Russia take down the Ukraine’s government? Why not.
They said they wanted to join NATO? They’re just a bunch
of NAZIs according to Russia. So why not?

A: Because the Ukraine had biolabs, a dire threat to
Russia.

1. Did Russia capture and destroy the devastatingly
dangerous biolabs? Well no.

A: NAZIs. The Ukraine was full of NAZIs.

1. Did Russia capture all of the Ukraine to rid it of the
NAZI threat? Well no.

Q: What did Russia do in the Ukraine? What major
accomplishment did it achieve?

A: It captured all the land that was over or had access to
the underwater AZOV gas preserves. It’s a massive preserve.

1. I had to look up that region. While looking for maps
of the region, I stumbled across the map of the AZOV gas
preserves. They match identically with the territory on
the south of the Ukraine that Russia just occupied.

2. Mariupol was dead center of that region. That’s why it
had to be taken over. They couldn’t leave it in the hands
of the Ukraine.

None of these facts need be derived from the media of the
West. It’s as transparent as it can be.

The history of the USSR and Russia using the NAZI slander
to justify their actions goes back 70 years. They’ve used
it over and over. Here they have again.

Sweden and Finland didn’t pursue joining NATO until after
Russia invaded the Ukraine in 2014. They recognized it as
an uncalled for act of aggression.

Seeing Russia building for war again, both seem to be
on the verge of telling NATO they want to join. I don’t
find that to be unreasoned.

Now, finding things a lot tougher than they thought they
would be in the Ukraine, Russia is blustering about using
nukes on the Ukraine and perhaps the West.

Is that the media of the West saying that. Do we only have
Biden’s or Soros’ word on that. No! Every day one or
another of the Russian leadership threatens to nuke the
West.

Now they are supposedly threatening Elan Musk too. I don’t
have proof of that. We don’t have proof of why Russia
really went into the Ukraine either, since it didn’t
address a single thing they used for an excuse to go in.

You guys want to believe what you want to believe.

I’m certain that if the U. S. gets nuked out of this, you
guys will say we had it coming.

I’ve witnessed Russian propaganda for over 55 years. This
looks just like all the rest I have seen.

Now we have some of our citizens on the righ5t championing
anything Russia wants to do.

“Hey, Russia had really good reasons.” Utter nonsense.

Hundreds of thousands of refugees. Many dead. Russian
soldiers dead. A lot of Russian equipment destroyed.
Seeming attacks inside Russia.

Has it been worth it? Well, some folks are certain it was.

I don’t live there. I do have sympathy for all the death
and destruction that has taken place over no more than
some flimsy excuses Russia failed to confirm by their
actions. For the record, I don’t like seeing Russians
killed either. The Western Media didn’t have to tell me
this.

You guys know it


11 posted on 05/08/2022 9:42:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: Skywise; DoughtyOne; Zhang Fei

Firstly skywise, that article you posted is heavily anti American. “end the unipolar hegemony of the “indispensable nation”. No wonder the Empire of Lies has gone completely berserk”

Secondly, “clear. The U.S. Deep State is milking to Kingdom Come its planned Ukraine gambit to cloak a strategic attack on Russia. The “secret” was to force Moscow into an intra-Slav war in Ukraine to break Nord Stream 2”
So now the narrative is that the USA tricked Putin into declaring war? So putin according to the article is a simp? A rube? Easily manipulated by the west into declaring war?

Thirdly “Its “hard” economy is similar to the U.S. Steel production may be about the same, but intellectual capacity is vastly superior”

Err..nope, Russia may be 6th by gdp pop, however that is purely an extract9economy. It’s intellectual capacity is below Switzerlamd or Netherlands, forget about the USA. Oh and Russians ARE smart people, but the smart folks leave or have left the kleptocracy that is Putin’s regime.

Fourthly, “The Five Seas system – Black, Azov, Caspian, Baltic, White – enshrines Russia as a de facto continental naval power. Who needs warm waters?”

Really? How dumb does this author think his reader are???

The Black sea entrance is controlled by Turkey. Plus Romania and Bulgaria are black sea countries that are also part of NATO. The azov is a part of the black sea and the Caspian is a lake, which also has Iran at the other side.

The Baltic sea has Finland, Sweden, Denmark and Poland plus the Baltica. Russia does not control it.

The white sea is a froze part of the arctic sea and norway and japan and canada have a little to say about it

The rest of the article is sheer nonsense that shows the author thinks his readers are idiots. Do you believe him?


48 posted on 05/09/2022 12:30:47 AM PDT by Cronos
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