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The Russian Frigate ‘Admiral Makarov’ Might Be The Juiciest Target In The Black Sea (It is burning already)
MSN (Forbes) ^ | 6 May 2022 | David Axe (Forbes)

Posted on 05/06/2022 10:14:24 AM PDT by BeauBo

After the dramatic sinking of the missile-cruiser Moskva by a Ukrainian missile battery on April 14, the Russian Black Sea Fleet is down to just three major surface combatants. The best and most important of them might be the new missile-frigate Admiral Makarov...

Commissioned in 2017, Admiral Makarov is the third, last and most modern vessel in her class. All three of the Admiral Grigorovich-class frigates belong to the Black Sea Fleet. Armed with 24 Buk medium-range surface-to-air missiles and eight Kalibr cruise missiles, all in vertical cells, the frigates can escort other vessels and also attack targets on land.

Admiral Makarov and her sisters are not big ships. Displacing just 4,000 tons of water and accommodating 200 crew, they’re less than half the size of the U.S. Navy’s main surface combatants, the Arleigh Burke-class destroyers.

But the frigates are about as big as Russia can make a non-nuclear surface combatant these days, for reasons that—ironically—have everything to do with the current war. Throughout the Soviet era and for years after the USSR’s collapse, Russia acquired its big marine engines from Ukraine.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: andagain; aroundandfindout; blackseafleet; clownworld; engines; marineengines; navy; russiannavy; ukraine; war
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To: hanamizu

Here’s a quicker and more entertaining telling of the same story;

The Dumbest Russian Voyage Nobody Talks About

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzGqp3R4Mx4


61 posted on 05/06/2022 12:13:18 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: BenLurkin

Not and be useful. If they can’t shoot at you you can’t shoot at them.


62 posted on 05/06/2022 12:15:52 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: BeauBo
Unverified video.
63 posted on 05/06/2022 12:21:53 PM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: Chad_the_Impaler

LOL, just like moskva was on here. Deny first, then well it’s not so bad, then it sank, then move to next subject like nazis or globalists.


64 posted on 05/06/2022 12:23:36 PM PDT by Houserino
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To: BeauBo

It’s a Billy Mitchell Moment - but defense industry dollars may completely obscure the lesson.


65 posted on 05/06/2022 12:27:39 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: ro_dreaming

Same here.


66 posted on 05/06/2022 12:39:23 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Houserino

well, if they DID get hit again, somebodies head is REALLY on the block this time...


67 posted on 05/06/2022 1:15:16 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: ro_dreaming

Well, it wasn’t so much a military defeat than a cultural or political one. We didn’t annihilate the Taliban to the last man and they took over as soon as we left. Ordinarily we killed them freely in combat and didn’t very many deaths for years.


68 posted on 05/06/2022 1:19:35 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: BeauBo

Fappin circle jerk thread.


69 posted on 05/06/2022 1:41:54 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: MplsSteve

Imagine what I think of you and the rest of the FReeper CINOs.


70 posted on 05/06/2022 1:43:28 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Dogbert41

Madness is the CINOs here dancing & giggling with Pelosi et al, seemingly supporting reports of US intel assisting the Ukrainians in targeting Russians.


71 posted on 05/06/2022 1:46:59 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Boogieman

“ Oh gee. Guess we should just let bullies with nuclear weapons do whatever they want ”

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Wow. The stupid is strong in this one.


72 posted on 05/06/2022 1:49:48 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: BeauBo

Imperialist, capitalist craigslist Americans.

How dare you to be the judging of the great the Rossiya?

Admiral ship is be doing special operations


73 posted on 05/06/2022 1:51:06 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Wallace T.

They sent in their best troops.

And lost.

So now they are hunting fir central African and Syrian mercenaries.


74 posted on 05/06/2022 1:52:51 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: DesertRhino

—”In your ardor to attack Russia directly on behalf of Ukraine, how many millions of Americans are you ready to see die on behalf of globalist dominated Ukraine that has bribed half of DC?”

In your ardor for Glorious Leader Putin, you have overlooked the likelihood of massive nuclear proliferation, should he prevail.

There is more ‘high tech’ in a Toyota than a nuclear device.
The fissile material is the hard part and your boy Putin would gladly help out.

Be careful what you wish for...


75 posted on 05/06/2022 1:56:00 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Dogbert41

What if Russia decides to sink one of our carriers with over 5,000 souls on board as a tit for tat?
***If we were to send a US carrier into the black sea, we would be inviting that level of escalation.


76 posted on 05/06/2022 2:12:51 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I’m thinking our own government would gladly help out too. What with the resurrected Iran deal and all.


77 posted on 05/06/2022 2:38:35 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: DUMBGRUNT

That’s gonna happen either way in case you hadn’t noticed. And Putin isn’t MY leader, you ignorant jackass.

I just don’t want my country getting nuked to protect the Biden and globalist ATM and a bunch of ignorant Galician nazis.


78 posted on 05/06/2022 2:43:52 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: BeauBo; DIRTYSECRET; PIF; MercyFlush; BiglyCommentary; Kevmo; ought-six; DoughtyOne; Red Badger; ...

I just read to article to see how the fact that marine engines came from Ukraine was an issue. Seems that Russia does not have engines for ships larger than 4000 tons displacement . Since Crimea (2014) Ukraine has refused to sell them the larger engines.. In addition the article, which is undated says:

“Many, including one Admiral Grigorovich-class frigate—it’s not clear which—were moored in Sevastopol as recently as Thursday. When the warships do sail from Crimea, they tend to stay 100 miles or so from the Ukrainian coast, potentially keeping them beyond the range of Kyiv’s Neptunes [which another comment at this post says may be 175 nm.

Keeping at a safe distance meant the frigates apparently were in no position to help when the Ukrainian navy last week mounted a furious drone assault on the Russian garrison on Snake Island. The tiny hunk of rock, 25 miles off the coast of southwestern Ukraine, helped Kyiv assert some control over the western Black Sea—until the Russians captured it on the first full day of the current war on Feb. 24.

Ukrainian TB-2 drones knocked out Russian air-defenses on the island then went hunting deeper at sea. On Monday, a TB-2 struck two Russian Raptor-class patrol boats with laser-guided missiles, heavily damaging if not destroying both of the 55-foot boats as they motored toward Snake Island.

Without the protection of a frigate, the Raptors were sitting ducks. In that sense, sinking Moskva—and scaring off the rest of the Black Sea Fleet’s major combatants—was as good as sinking the frigates, too. It doesn’t matter that Russia still has three powerful warships in the Black Sea if those ships can’t, or won’t, risk approaching the Ukrainian coast.

Still, the Ukrainians undoubtedly would love to get a shot at Admiral Makarov and her sisters. On Thursday there were rumors they’d landed a blow with a Neptune and the frigate was on fire. There was no immediate evidence to back up the rumors.” Probably written yesterday.

Some thoughts I have. A week ago there was talk about Russia joining up with pro Russia troops in Transdinistria (a thin sliver of land between Moldova and western Ukraine). A Ukraine attack and perhaps repossesion of Snake Island, 25 miles off the coast near Odessa would cause a serious crimp in Russian plans for a coastal landing to reach these allies. Further sinking or crippling of Russian marine forces is an additional discouragement. Russian ships are currently staying 100 miles away from Ukraine held coast to avoid missiles. So long as Ukraine can hold on to Odessa, it appears Russia cannot do an end run to Moldova. This should also cause Hungary to think twice about interfering.


79 posted on 05/06/2022 3:00:46 PM PDT by gleeaikin (""s,")
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To: DesertRhino

—” And Putin isn’t MY leader, you ignorant jackass.”

And yet, you toe his line?

With you being an obvious Putin super fan, tell me when your anti nazi Glorious Leader is tracking down the perps of Katyn Woods? Most of the victims were Polish or Ukrainian, not real Russians.
Yes, the papers were signed by Stalin, his idol.


80 posted on 05/06/2022 3:11:14 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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