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Intelligence provided by the U.S. helped Ukrainians sink Russian ship Moskva
CBS ^ | May 5, 2022 | Eleanor Watson, David Martin

Posted on 05/05/2022 7:48:39 PM PDT by Doofer

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To: Mark17

yes. it actually makes a great deal of sense in that context.

for anyone able to move out of the US, preferably out of the first world completely, this is your wake-up call. there isn’t too much time left.

if I had my options open still, I would be looking closely at brazil/arg/chile, though it has been a long long time since I was that far south. no opinion on any country between the 3.


21 posted on 05/05/2022 8:22:16 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Doofer; All

Good cover for the Ukraine double agents who are providing the data from inside the Russian machine.


22 posted on 05/05/2022 8:22:46 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: cranked

well, a pogrom has been a clear necessity given the 2020 election. history suggests you always get one, and the question was how to implement here.

emergency conditions like post-nuke, quite easy.


23 posted on 05/05/2022 8:23:18 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

Agreed all.


24 posted on 05/05/2022 8:23:22 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We were just days away, from fundamentally transforming America, in late 2008.


25 posted on 05/05/2022 8:23:50 PM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: Mark17

Sure hope we don’t have World War IV before the midterms and/or the next COVID-19(84) variant.

Like where only mail-in ballots would be used.


26 posted on 05/05/2022 8:26:14 PM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“Maybe sink a few of our ships in the gulf or North Sea.”

Good luck. We actually have missile defense on all surface ships that is regularly tested and not sold for booze


27 posted on 05/05/2022 8:30:27 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: Doofer

What would be left to govern in America after a nuclear exchange?

The entire Washington DC metro area would be gone.

The fences around government buildings won’t keep nukes from incinerating everything.

Only truly insane people would start a nuclear war.


28 posted on 05/05/2022 8:34:42 PM PDT by Gnome1949
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To: Gnome1949

what do your eyes and ears tell you is happening?

by our standards, our rulers are insane. but they might disagree.


29 posted on 05/05/2022 8:39:43 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Doofer

Another foolish move by DC.


30 posted on 05/05/2022 8:41:49 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Gnome1949
"The entire Washington DC metro area would be gone."

When you see the rats vacate DC en masse (politicians and connected government functionaries)--and you'll get many reasons as to why--you'll know something is imminent.

Hopefully, someone has a stash of cement and explosives ready to seal the perps inside their bunkers.

31 posted on 05/05/2022 8:44:42 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Doofer
Honestly, I'm not so sure if the U.S. or NATO had any significant involvement in her sinking.

According to H.I. Sutton, the Moskva had developed routine or pattern operations. Predictability like that increases vulnerability. According to this tweet, the Moskva was close to shore, engaged in naval gunfire of shore targets when she was hit. When a warship wakes up a entire coast line by shelling it, James Bond is not needed to know where she is.

Between OSINT watching her movements for a month, coast watchers calling in her general location, and TB-2 Bayraktar drones providing targeting, Ukraine had what it needed to target the Moskva on their own. It is not a case of Ukraine or the U.S. being really smart, as much as the Russians mishandling their navy just as badly as their army.

32 posted on 05/05/2022 8:49:43 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: WoofDog123

Democrats are reckless; however, I would think incompetence is more likely than malice in this case. Equally as dangerous, however.


33 posted on 05/05/2022 8:56:37 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( "The media is the enemy of the American people." Democrat Pat Caddell.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
This is not a war between Ukraine and Russia. This is a war between the Democrats and Russia and the goal is regime change in RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA because they still pretend despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary that RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA stole the 2016 election from them

Partner, I agree with u,

34 posted on 05/05/2022 9:03:38 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business)
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To: Widget Jr
Between OSINT watching her movements for a month, coast watchers calling in her general location, and TB-2 Bayraktar drones providing targeting, Ukraine had what it needed to target the Moskva on their own.

Assuming all this is true, Kirby taking credit for "Intelligence provided by the US helped Ukrainians sink Russian ship Moskva" could lead to a nuclear war anyway.

35 posted on 05/05/2022 9:11:46 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: BenLurkin

RE: Intelligence provided by the U.S. helped Ukrainians sink Russian ship Moskva

And Intelligence provided by the USA helped Ukraine kill 9 Russian Generals and wound their Chief of Staff. Who’s surprised?


36 posted on 05/05/2022 9:51:15 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: BenLurkin

Zlochevsky is a Pro-Russian Oligarch. He was a minister in the Russian-controlled government that lost power in 2014.
You are on the side of Burisma and Stalinists. Think before you post.


37 posted on 05/05/2022 10:36:38 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: BenLurkin

Anyone ever wonder why the battle of Armageddon will be fought on horseback?


38 posted on 05/05/2022 10:51:57 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (A dead thing goes with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it. John 3:16 Z)
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To: Gnome1949

“The entire Washington DC metro area would be gone.”

And the downside is ???? What red button do I push to make that happen? Do they sell them on Anazon?


39 posted on 05/06/2022 12:20:15 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: Dogbert41

horseback... interesting point but I wonder if that was just John using terminology he understood for things he saw but didn’t. Like translating a word from one language where there is none in the other that fits.


40 posted on 05/06/2022 12:26:36 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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