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Pope Francis suggests the 'barking of NATO at Russia's door' may have forced Putin to invade Ukraine
Fox News ^ | 5/5/22 | Paul Best

Posted on 05/05/2022 6:50:43 AM PDT by JonPreston

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To: JonPreston

DUH....blockade of Cuba to force removal of USSR missiles was just fine with Neocons. That caused Cuban missile crisis and possibility of nuclear war with USSR.

But Russia must allow NATO weapon right on it’s border, not even 90 miles away like Cuba is from US border.


41 posted on 05/05/2022 8:02:58 AM PDT by entropy12 (No vaccine can "prevent" infection. Vaccines can help after infection with additional anti-bodies.)
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To: JonPreston

Its true that Neocons and leftist globalists brought pressure on Russia.

It is also true that there is nothing that can be done about Ukraine other than Ukraine winning or losing.

Winning for Ukraine means a long war where Russia fights a more tsrrible Afghanistan campaign

Losing is either a Nuclear strike or surrender.

I think Russia is still holding out for a conventional second option before trying the nuclear path.


42 posted on 05/05/2022 8:03:18 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: dforest
"If these countries join, they have zero to offer militarily but will get the use of other peoples forces to protect and fight for them if attacked. They have also given up their independent status as a result which was probably why they were allowed into NATO so quickly. The NWO marches on consuming all in it’s path."

Total bullshit....

43 posted on 05/05/2022 8:03:49 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: JonPreston

Me thinks the Pope should stick to his line of work.


44 posted on 05/05/2022 8:06:21 AM PDT by Rappini
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To: Wonder Warthog

And yet, they weren’t denied entry.


45 posted on 05/05/2022 8:09:20 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: JonPreston

Well Putin’s gambit may have totally backfired. Ukraine might not become part of NATO but it looks like Finland & Sweden will be and they are right on Russia’s front door and a direct threat to their northern seaport of Murmansk and the city of St Petersburg.


46 posted on 05/05/2022 8:14:03 AM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: JonPreston

Hmmm..did he pray about it..or quote scripture?


47 posted on 05/05/2022 8:15:51 AM PDT by Leep (Don't say God.)
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To: MercyFlush

LOL...


48 posted on 05/05/2022 8:28:29 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Rappini

When has this Pope ever done that?


49 posted on 05/05/2022 8:36:03 AM PDT by dforest (We have to put a stop to this now.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

So explain to me why it is BS. If you are going to call it BS, explain why.


50 posted on 05/05/2022 8:43:59 AM PDT by dforest (We have to put a stop to this now.)
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To: nwrep

For once he may be right. NATO is driven by Neocons.
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….and the Claus Scwaub Great Reset World Economic Forum ( WEF), destroy everything, build back better agenda. The Covid scam failed, now onto a war, worldwide global trade destruction, anything to destroy the world’s trade system.

Wake up America . You have been played once by the global Covid, hoax, twice by the western media calls for a war/ destruction of world trade, what next?

Please, please, please don’t get sucked in again. There is NOTHING clean, pure or righteous about anything Vegetable Head supports, proposes or instated.


51 posted on 05/05/2022 8:54:58 AM PDT by delta7
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To: JonPreston

Wow. Francis going off the official U.N. narrative for once…


52 posted on 05/05/2022 9:03:10 AM PDT by rhinohunter (“Being woke means you’re a loser” — Donald J. Trump)
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To: rhinohunter

Shocking actually. In a good way.


53 posted on 05/05/2022 9:04:41 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: delta7

#51. 100%


54 posted on 05/05/2022 9:05:22 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: JonPreston

Go back to your knitting, Pope!


55 posted on 05/05/2022 9:07:56 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: JonPreston; All

The willfully ignorant will remain ignorant —

It’s all relevant.

A little background on the ROC before demonstrating the real relationship between RCC Pope Francis and ROC Patriarch “Kirill”

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ROC is KGB-FSB

A Breitbart Intro —

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/01/11/kgb-christians-putin-stalin-kgbs-history-manipulating-orthodox-church/

“The Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) has been, since its reconstitution during WWII, an instrument of the state. The best illustration of this is probably the 1949 “Greetings from the clergy and laity of the Russian Orthodox Church to the leader of the nations of the USSR, the Generalissimus Joseph Stalin on his 70th birthday.” It states, in part:

“Witnessing at every step your noble efforts to make people’s lives peaceful and happy, we see in your person not only a great statesman and leader, guiding the lives of people in a new direction of history, but also a fatherly, caring trustee of all aspects of our human existence with all its various needs.

The Russian Orthodox patriarch at the time of Putin’s Easter show was patriarch Aleksi II, who died on December 5, 2008. Lt. Gen. (r) Ion Mihai Pacepa, the highest Soviet bloc official to defect to the United States, writes of Aleksi II, “The KGB had carried him under the codename ‘DROZDOV’ and awarded him its Certificate of Honor, as was learned from a KGB archive accidentally left behind in Estonia.”

Additionally, we know more from “original KGB documents known as the Mitrokhin Archive (described by the FBI as the most complete and extensive intelligence ever received from any source).” We also know more “from Politburo documents released by Father Gleb Yakunin, vice chairman of a Russian parliamentary commission that investigated the KGB’s manipulation of the church.”

And with those details in hand, the “election” of a new patriarch in 2009 was quite a sight to behold:

On January 27, 2009, the 700 Synod delegates assembling in Moscow were indeed presented with a slate listing three candidates. All, however, belonged to the secret KGB army: Metropolitan Kirill of Smolensk worked for the KGB under the code name “MIKHAYLOV”; Metropolitan Filaret of Minsk has just been identified as having labored for the KGB under the codename “OSTROVSKY”; Metropolitan Kliment of Kaluga was recently discovered to have been listed under the codename “TOPAZ”.

When the bells at Christ the Savior Cathedral in Moscow announced that a new patriarch had been elected, Metropolitan Kirill, aka “MIKHAYLOV,” proved to be the winner.

Presumably, the KGB/FSB considered him to be in a better position to carry out its tasks abroad, where he had directed his efforts during most of his professional life. In 1971, the KGB had sent him to Geneva (Switzerland) as a representative of the Russian Orthodox Church to the World Council of Churches (WCC), the largest international ecumenical organization after the Vatican, representing some 550 million Christians of various denominations throughout 120 countries.

His task was to use his position in the WCC to spread the doctrine of Liberation Theology—a Marxist religious movement born in the KGB—throughout Latin America. In 1975, the KGB had infiltrated “MIKHAYLOV” into the WCC’s central committee, and in 1989 the KGB had appointed him chairman of the Russian patriarchate’s foreign relations as well—positions he still held when he was “elected” patriarch. Indeed, in his acceptance speech “MIKHAYLOV” announced that he would establish religious television channels in Russia that would broadcast abroad.

Kirill/“MIKHAYLOV” recently attacked the “Godless” Ukrainians – though, according to one journalist (a recipient of the Blessed Karol Wojtyla [Pope John Paul II] prize for excellence in journalism dealing with religious themes), “25% of the population attends Easter services in Ukraine compared to 2% in Russia.”

In November, Kirill/“MIKHAYLOV” asked that Russians “remember positive achievements of the Soviet period”

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ROC FURTHER REVEALED —

The Real ROC has been a powerful instrument of the NKVD/KGB/FSB for over a century —

Worse, neither KGB ROC Patriarch Kirill (Vladimir Mikhailovich Gundyayev), nor his KGB predecessor Alexy II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger), were able to subordinate the UA Orthodox church under Putin’s regime.

ROC has been, and is a very powerful and useful political instrument, from various political and surveillance “angles” -

KGB/FSB ROC - what it really is, for those who actually desire to know the truth, and get a bit closer to understanding what we are really seeing now —
https://fitzinfo.net/2021/09/19/the-kgb-and-the-russian-orthodox-church/amp/

https://www.traditioninaction.org/History/F_009_Kyrill_2.html

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/01/11/kgb-christians-putin-stalin-kgbs-history-manipulating-orthodox-church/

https://www.forbes.com/2009/02/20/putin-solzhenitsyn-kirill-russia-opinions-contributors_orthodox_church.html?sh=1c9e32673bf9

https://thenewamerican.com/putin-defender-of-christian-faith-and-morality/

https://risu.ua/en/calling-patriarch-kirill-a-kgb-agent-is-not-an-insult-—bulgarian-court-decision_n117656

THEN — Putin Rewrites Church History to Justify Taking Ukraine

https://www.godreports.com/2022/02/putin-with-russian-orthodox-church-promoted-re-write-of-church-history-to-justify-invasion-of-ukraine/

Source - -https://www.academia.edu/37152767/The_Mikhailov_Files_Patriarch_Kirill_and_the_KGB

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*NOW RCC AND ROC RELATIONSHIP REVEALED —

Ties between current ROC, RCC, WEF —

Again, Putin has successfully tied the ROC to a former KGB Marxist 1960’s priest named *Jorge Mario Bergoglio (Now Pope Francis) of the RCC and to the World Counsel of Churches, even while “Francis” has on the surface distanced himself due to Putin/Ukraine optics and survival —
http://www.analysis-review.com/catholic-pope-kgb-patriarch-get-together/

https://traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A956-Sch.htm

https://www.catholicamericanthinker.com/Red-Pope.html

https://www.aim.org/aim-column/pope-francis-jihad-and-moscows-espionage-church/

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/liberation-theology-activist-pope-francis-is-one-of-us

https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/i99ht_104_Kirill.html

https://watchingamerica.com/WA/2018/01/14/pope-francis-and-putin-2018s-unspoken-partnership/
https://newspunch.com/wikileaks-soros-vatican-coup/

https://www.fromrome.info/2021/08/10/pope-benedict-xvi-was-pressured-to-resign-by-the-prussian-masonic-lodges/

As significantly benefited Moscow through the Kremlin directed U-1 and *Skolkavo Projects, Clinton-Obama acted to replace and install longtime KGB Humanist, Marxist Globalist, Social Marxist proponent RCC-ROC buddy-WCC Pope “Francis”.

https://www.sgtreport.com/2019/09/new-evidence-emerges-that-the-real-reason-pope-benedict-suddenly-retired-was-because-of-end-times-cabal-headed-by-george-soros-barack-obama-and-hillary-clinton/

NOT COMPREHENSIVE, BUT ALL TIED TO KLAUSE SCHWAB —
https://www.fromrome.info/2021/08/18/vatican-ii-revolution-tied-directly-to-klaus-schwab-of-the-great-reset/ *

Again, Pope Francis was literally at “Ground Zero” of the KGB’s secular Warsaw Pact development, but the development and effort to spread “Liberation theology” and “Social Justice” within the Roman Catholic Church, and through the World Council of Churches.

This was part of the plan to neutralize and “capture” the churches, and to spread societal division, and to necessarily create pervasive sexual perversion throughout Western societies.

Putin himself has long been an admitted and strong global governance proponent and friend of Klause Schwab, as is Xi, but see themselves as ascendant over the structure — as does the EU, or leftists from the US (see Quigley’s, Tragedy & Hope)

Ukraine is a mere proxy and necessary stepping stone in need of re-subordination to Moscow’s 22.5 million km square CIS, and its current Chinese aligned axis, and will get crushed no matter what.


56 posted on 05/05/2022 9:21:24 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“”arms trade is a scandal””

WHEN has he ever spoken up about the arms sold and provided to terrorist organizations? Where did ISIS get their weapons? Where does Syria get theirs? Where did Arafat get his? How about the weapons used by Gaza Strip against Israel?


57 posted on 05/05/2022 9:25:42 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: rhinohunter; All

“Wow. Francis going off the official U.N. narrative for once”

NOT REMOTELY !

See response #56 (mine, and the tangible reality)


58 posted on 05/05/2022 9:30:44 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: JonPreston

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

If Russia was doing in Mexico what we have done in Ukraine, we would have invaded two years ago.


59 posted on 05/05/2022 9:33:55 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Love's redeeming work is done)
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To: JonPreston

Took him long enough to figure that out - wonder who finally told him? 🤪


60 posted on 05/05/2022 9:43:50 AM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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