Posted on 05/04/2022 4:23:08 AM PDT by McGruff
The civilians who arrived in Zaporizhzhia Tuesday were not the ones who were evacuated from the Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol days earlier, according to its mayor.
The buses allegedly carrying Ukrainian civilians from the Azovstal steel plant were not actually from Mariupol but from "other cities," Mayor Vadym Boichenko said during a briefing at Media Center Ukraine.
"The previous evacuation, which took place yesterday, which was presented by a number of media outlets as information that those were the residents of Mariupol who left, is not true. These people who were evacuated had nothing to do with the residents of Mariupol, they are from other cities," Boichenko said.
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On Tuesday, the arrival of the citizens was widely celebrated as a victory, including a statement from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy who announced the event during his nightly address.
What isn't celebrated as a victory by the MediaMilitaryPolitical complex? Anything? Anything at all?
As I’ve been saying from the beginning regarding Ukraine:
We are being lied to by the Russian media and authorities.
We are being lied to by the Ukrainian media and authorities.
We are damn sure being lied to by the US media and authorities.
We are being lied to by the EU media and authorities.
We are being lied to by the Brit media and authorities.
In War the first casualty is the Truth.
So if all we can conlcude is Russia invaded Ukraine, then thats all I need to know.
We’re probably being ripped off too.
“So if all we can conlcude is Russia invaded Ukraine, then thats all I need to know.
Likewise, if Soros is supporting Ukraine, which he is, then I know what side NOT to take.
We know that Ukrainian leadership is in bed with Joe and Hunter Biden and a host of other unsavory folks.
But keep on keeping on with your Cold War mentality.
I am for regime change in Moscow.
I am for regime change in Kiev.
I am for regime change in Washington.
I am against US involvement Ukraine when US political leadership clearly is up to their necks in political payoff deals from Ukraine using their kids as cutouts with Ukraine. Biden, Pelosi, Romney, et al.
But yes, rah, rah, Putin / Moscow bad. We can agree on that.
That has been obvious at least since the Hunter Biden laptop, well before this war.
Regime change...
Regime change in 2004 in Ukraine-Ornage revolution.
Well they had a regime change in 2014 Maidan
Then an election that got Zelensky by 73% of the vote few years later.
So you got your regime change in Ukraine times in past 20 years in Ukraine
USA had regime change from Obama to Trump and now Biden. Regime change twice.
Now where have we not had any “regime changes”???
So if all we can conlcude is Russia invaded Ukraine, then thats all I need to know.
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True; but that doesn’t mean that the USA should militarily intervene — spending tens of billions — or that Ukraine and its leftist allies (Biden, BoJo, Macron, Trudeau, etc.) are the good guys.
Do you believe the US election of Biden was a free and fair election, all on the up and up?
You seem to imply that.
Perhaps some chose not to return to the Ukrainian side. And certainly, anyone released will be debriefed. Didn’t a former Canadian officer surrender yesterday? I would expect there to be more high-value brass among those surrounded and to do all they can to avoid capture.
Wanna play poker sometime?
So you would rather side with a murderous maniac like Putin ?? The same Putin who actively supports and props up fellow murderous maniacs in Iran. The same Putin who has been running interference for the Iranian nuclear program for 15 years ? The same Putin who supports a murderous regime in Venezuela that is working to destabilize South America and spread their Socialist Revolution and who are enemies of the US ? The same Putin who now recklessly is threatening sovereign neutral countries with nuclear annihilation because they oppose his invasion of Ukraine ?
Compared to Putin, POS Soros is just an annoying mischievous gnat in the big picture.
Why is this an either/or proposition?
I reject your false dilemma. I choose neither.
“Compared to Putin, POS Soros is just an annoying mischievous gnat in the big picture.”
Try again, it sure as hell isn’t Putin that made my city, and dozens others in the US, a No-Go Zone, with DAs, Prosecutors, and Judges no longer sticking felons in jail.
It’s not even close.
You’re welcome to reject what you want, but when I see all of my ENEMIES, my entire adult life, lining up on one side, it’s going to take a LOT MORE to get me to side with them than a guy halfway around the world cleaning up his backyard (especially considering our adventures around the world).
1991 to the present.....Independent and Ukraine is still one big crappy nation.
Seriously ??? You don’t think Russian proveceteurs have not infiltrated and influenced every anti US group around including BLM and that they have not channeled money or support to destabilizing forces and politicians here in the US ??? You really think they are just sitting on the sidelines along with the Chinese and watching what is going on here with disinterest ?? Wow.
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