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The Long And Gruesome History of People Trying to Live Forevet
The Washington Post ^ | 5/1/2022 | Theo Zenou

Posted on 05/02/2022 6:47:08 AM PDT by Fitzy_888

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A physicist trained at Caltech and Cambridge, he sees immortality as a mathematical challenge. To solve it requires first asking why we age. “The canonical answer,” Fink explained, “is that aging is inevitable and a fundamental condition of life.” Every organism degrades over time and eventually breaks down. End of story.

“But the story’s much weirder than we think,” Fink said. In a recent paper, he used math to demonstrate that “aging can be favored by natural selection.” That’s a shocking insight: It means that the first forms of life, which started billions of years ago, likely didn’t die.

Death emerged during the course of evolution because it conferred an advantage. In short, species that died fared better than those that didn’t.

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To: aquila48
He didn't make things that way, that's the way things are. The nature of God is immutable and eternal. He didn't make himself, He simple IS. Sinful/evil/darkness can't survive in his presence.

You seem to be asking why he created us with free will and the short answer is because He chose to make a creation that could also choose. That whole "in his image" thing.

And we chose to make things this way. That's on us, not Him.

61 posted on 05/02/2022 11:14:17 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: Fitzy_888

Why do we age?

O² and el sol’s radiation


62 posted on 05/02/2022 11:20:28 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, bust that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Valpal1

“You seem to be asking why he created us with free will and the short answer is because He chose to make a creation that could also choose. That whole “in his image” thing.”

Wwll,one would have to say he failed miserably in making us in his image - he’s the epitome of perfection, we’re anything but.

We’re kinda the Yugo of life.

“He didn’t make things that way, that’s the way things are.”

Woah! Did he not create everything according to Genesis?


63 posted on 05/02/2022 11:22:44 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Sirius Lee

“If he wanted us to be perfect he might as well could have not created free will.”

God is omniscient, he knows everything past, present and future.

That means he knows everything you’re going to do. That means there is no free will. You cannot choose something other than what he already knows.

So there really isn’t anything as true free will, just “unknown will” , unknown to us at least.

We don’t know ahead of time how we’re going to react to some future situation, but he does, right?


64 posted on 05/02/2022 11:31:48 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: BiteYourSelf
Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels (1726). On one of his voyages Gulliver encounters beings who live forever, but grow old, so they are miserable.
65 posted on 05/02/2022 11:34:57 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: .30Carbine

“Why dost thou strive against thy Maker?”

I’m not striving against the maker. I’m simply using his biggest gift, the brain he gave us, to get a better understanding of him.

I think he would approve, don’t you?


66 posted on 05/02/2022 11:35:36 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48

No God created the universe we occupy. But God did not create himself. He is the Great I Am. Without beginning or end and unchanging.

Which is why the bible schools us on questioning God’s purpose or intent.

God tells us His original creation was “good” and we broke it by choosing disobedience. I’m not going to argue with Him over it.

As for how humans are made in the “image of God”... that seems to be in that we have both free will and creative/imaginative capabilities which other created beings like angels don’t have or no longer have.


67 posted on 05/02/2022 11:38:30 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: aquila48

Knowing doesn’t mean causing.

Just because God knows everything we will do (and we don’t) doesn’t mean he causes us to do those things. We still have free will and chose to do them.

Even while we lived in sin and enmity with God, He still provided a path to the perfection He intended for us at great personal expense through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Before He created the universe, He knew this was going to be necessary and He created us anyway.


68 posted on 05/02/2022 11:55:40 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Nope,much more recent than that.


69 posted on 05/02/2022 12:00:28 PM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: Fitzy_888
The Long And Gruesome History of People Trying to Live Forever

What a JOKE this story is... WHY?

Because you're as DEAD now as you are EVER going to be.

What's looking out of those eyes at the world around you is a dead now as it's ever going to be.

God gave each and everyone of us an ETERNAL, IMMORTAL SOUL. That means there is NO END to our existence and the roads it travels.

Life is but one facet of the MULTITUDE of existences that the soul traverses.

The so called "FUTURE" of each soul is GOVERNED by each SOUL itself.

If you "BELIEVE" in JESUS as your SAVIOR then your SOUL ( you ) may have a totally different "Future" existence, than if you do not.

Jesus said, "As you believe, so shall it be done unto you"

70 posted on 05/02/2022 12:27:23 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: aquila48
We don’t know ahead of time how we’re going to react to some future situation, but he does, right?

Yup. A lump of iron doesn't know why it's being heated up and hammered and dunked in cold water, or have an understanding of its destiny but the Blacksmith does, whether He's creating a sword or a plowshare.

71 posted on 05/02/2022 12:45:50 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: BiteYourSelf

The more recent author may have gotten the idea from Swift. Of course Swift may have found it in an earlier author.


72 posted on 05/02/2022 12:55:59 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: MayflowerMadam

Without Mary’s YES to God, there would be no Jesus.

Salvation through within and because of Mary.


73 posted on 05/02/2022 1:04:15 PM PDT by BarbM (Men who look at porn are impotent to God.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Could be.🤔


74 posted on 05/02/2022 1:12:40 PM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: Fitzy_888
Sam Emerson: What's that smell?

Edgar Frog: Vampires, my friend, vampires.

75 posted on 05/02/2022 1:15:06 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Please Pray For My Brother Ken.)
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To: Fitzy_888

Abundance requires better selection — rather than simply more frequent selection.

When food (resources) are plentiful, the winning strategy is to be more selective — and not less — which is obviously the mistake of the morbidly obese, drug abusers, and lottery winners — who all of a sudden think they have to have multiple houses and cars, which increases their liabilities and shortens their lifespans by making them more vulnerable to the viruses, bacteria, fungi, injuries and accidents.

That should have been the primary lesson of the “pandemic,” but instead was misplaced for the necessity of vaccinating the least vulnerable — in the idiotic notion that that would increase the immunity of the least capable by averaging it out — as the undiscriminating wokesters like to believe.

Aging is a function of time — but we recognize that some age well while most age badly, or poorly — largely because of the bad lifestyle choices they make — doing whatever turns them on at the moment. These invariably have longterm and lifetime implications. That is the crux of the problem — and not finding miracle vaccines to prolong one’s life in longterm care centers — just because they have all the money in the world, and the fundraisers know how to work them out of it.


76 posted on 05/02/2022 1:41:39 PM PDT by MikeHu
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To: Valpal1

“Just because God knows everything we will do (and we don’t) doesn’t mean he causes us to do those things. We still have free will and chose to do them.”

It doesn’t matter whether he causes you do things, if he knows for certainty you’re going to do a particular thing that means you have no free will - you will do that thing.

If I know with 100% certainty that your going to rob a bank, that means it’s been predermined that you will rob the bank and you have no choice in the matter. Right?

Also if he knows your going to do a heinous act and he has the power to stop it (remember he’s all powerful) why doesn’t he?

I got a feeling that if you were in his place you would stop it, no?


77 posted on 05/02/2022 1:46:51 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Valpal1

“God tells us His original creation was “good” and we broke it by choosing disobedience.”

That makes no sense - obviously his creation wasn’t that good, otherwise we wouldn’t have disobeyed him and do bad things.

Would you purposefully build a robot that disobeys you? And if you made a mistake and did build a faulty robot, doesn’t that make you less than perfect?


78 posted on 05/02/2022 1:55:22 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48

First, I think an omniscient and eternal God has a different standard than an ignorant and mortal being. It might even be inscrutable to created beings.

Second, you never experienced the original creation before it was broken by disobedience, so what’s your basis of knowledge to quibble with whether God’s original creation was good or not?

Third, since I’m not omniscient and do not and cannot understand the thoughts of God except for what he has “biblesplained”, I’m not going to argue with the Most High about whether His endgame was a worthy use of His power.

The shallowness of your questions makes them seem insincere.


79 posted on 05/02/2022 2:45:45 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: aquila48

“Would you purposefully build a robot that disobeys you?”

Reminds me of that guy that has his virtual wife, but the software didn’t update so now he lost her.

Would you rather have a person that loves you by their own choice, or would you rather have a robot that you built that you programmed to love you?


80 posted on 05/02/2022 2:51:12 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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