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The Long And Gruesome History of People Trying to Live Forevet
The Washington Post ^ | 5/1/2022 | Theo Zenou

Posted on 05/02/2022 6:47:08 AM PDT by Fitzy_888

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A physicist trained at Caltech and Cambridge, he sees immortality as a mathematical challenge. To solve it requires first asking why we age. “The canonical answer,” Fink explained, “is that aging is inevitable and a fundamental condition of life.” Every organism degrades over time and eventually breaks down. End of story.

“But the story’s much weirder than we think,” Fink said. In a recent paper, he used math to demonstrate that “aging can be favored by natural selection.” That’s a shocking insight: It means that the first forms of life, which started billions of years ago, likely didn’t die.

Death emerged during the course of evolution because it conferred an advantage. In short, species that died fared better than those that didn’t.

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To: Magnum44

LOL!

Are you an advocate of youth-in-Asia?


41 posted on 05/02/2022 10:02:01 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Paal Gulli

“Dying is the only thing that makes life worth living.”

So you’re not a fan of everlasting life after you die?

“We’d have a planet full of million-year-old people who had never had the joy of being a parent, who had no children to strive to make the world better for, and no motivation to do anything but sit around and eat bon-bons.”

That’s pretty much the way paradise is sold. Except you’d also be playing the harp while eating bon-bons.


42 posted on 05/02/2022 10:06:44 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Robert DeLong

“Dynazty - I Want To Live Forever”

That’s the song that immediately came to my head when I saw this post.


43 posted on 05/02/2022 10:08:45 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: MikeHu

Abundance leads to more frequent selection, less the need for long life (not aging). A virus or germ might only need hours.

So then wouldn’t it follow that the opposite be true? Extremely rare single cell life forms needing the time to bump into each other or find a mechanism where by it splits into two. Not aging would be highly advantageous and yet still some calamity would at some point befall the cell, so not immortality.

Later, when there’s an abundance of these theoretically creature, aging would then become advantageous.

Seems like something you could extrapolate from Darwin’s theory. (For arguments sake.)


44 posted on 05/02/2022 10:10:15 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Fitzy_888

“What would the most valuable thing be? Clearly, longer life.”

Or Twitter, if you were Musk.


45 posted on 05/02/2022 10:10:39 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: I want the USA back

“There would be NO evolutionary advantage to living forever.”

Uh? That’s the definition of evolutionary success - an organism that has survived regardless of what nature has thrown at it.

That’s the pinnacle of evolutionary advantage, no?


46 posted on 05/02/2022 10:18:19 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48

God is only the father of those who have been born again (John 3). You are born again by grace THROUGH FAITH (Ephesians 2:8-9), which requires a decision on your part to turn from your present course, I.e., “repent”.*

“For you are the children of your father the devil, and you love to do the evil things he does. He was a murderer from the beginning. He has always hated the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, it is consistent with his character; for he is a liar and the father of lies.”
John 8:44

* https://www.gotquestions.org/how-to-repent.html


47 posted on 05/02/2022 10:20:42 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: aquila48
I had that as the first on the list, and moved it to the bottom believing if people heard that one first they might not listen to any of the others I selected. 🙂

I had actually never heard the song before. I give it kind of mixed reviews. At first I didn't like it but then it kind of grew on me the more I listened.

48 posted on 05/02/2022 10:22:07 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: aquila48

That “cure” will be the Mark of the Beast, so every Christian will choose death rather than take it. Our cure is real, eternal life, in new bodies made to be like the body of Christ when He rose from the grave.


49 posted on 05/02/2022 10:23:57 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: Fitzy_888

“What would the most valuable thing be? Clearly, longer life.”

Longevity itself would not be the goal—longer healthy youth would be.

In addition, you would want freedom from meddling Karens in your personal and public life.


50 posted on 05/02/2022 10:25:23 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: aquila48

You are what is Scripturally referred to as a mocker. Your future does not look bright.


51 posted on 05/02/2022 10:26:17 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: .30Carbine

“That “cure” will be the Mark of the Beast, so every Christian will choose death rather than take it. Our cure is real, eternal life, in new bodies made to be like the body of Christ when He rose from the grave.”

I don’t understand why God plays these games with us. He could have made us perfect but chose not to. Why?

Oh I know - the original sin. In other words his very first attempt at making humans, it was less than perfect. He made them so they would disobey him - AND HE KNEW IT!- since he’s all knowing, right?

Something doesn’t add up.


52 posted on 05/02/2022 10:35:44 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48

You were predicted to be around at the end when the Word of God stated clearly that in the end scoffers will come. IF you survive the removal of the Body of Christ Believers, it is your ilk who will curse God.


53 posted on 05/02/2022 10:37:53 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: aquila48

Those who have not accepted His grace would be instantly destroyed in His presence... that’s the purpose of the grace, that we might live.

Sinful/evil humans can’t live in the presence of God anymore than darkness can remain in the presence of light.


54 posted on 05/02/2022 10:56:51 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: Valpal1

“Those who have not accepted His grace would be instantly destroyed in His presence... that’s the purpose of the grace, that we might live.

Sinful/evil humans can’t live in the presence of God anymore than darkness can remain in the presence of light.”

But why did he make things that way?

He’s all powerful, he could have made all of us good and respectful of him, no?


55 posted on 05/02/2022 11:00:17 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: .30Carbine

“You are what is Scripturally referred to as a mocker.”

I’m not mocking, just using my God given brain to ask some simple and obvious questions.

Can you answer them?


56 posted on 05/02/2022 11:05:19 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48
I don’t understand why God plays these games with us. He could have made us perfect but chose not to. Why?

If he wanted us to be perfect he might as well could have not created free will. How boring. It would be like locking every human up from the moment of birth in solitary confinement so-as to prevent us from ever committing a crime.

Free will opens the door for failure, but also for redemption. Without the possibility of rebellion and sin there cannot be free will. Without free will there can never be grace.

57 posted on 05/02/2022 11:05:35 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: aquila48

Aging is not a sickness. All that begins will eventually end.
As stated, I have no interest in living for 130 years just because science might make it possible. Big Whoop!

At that point, life is more a matter of ‘artificially enhanced biologic survival’ vs collecting new experiences. I’ll be the best dressed near-cadaver on the Sun Porch right next to my (opened, but undrank) bottle of Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer.


58 posted on 05/02/2022 11:09:55 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: .30Carbine

““For you are the children of your father the devil, and you love to do the evil things he does. He was a murderer from the beginning. He has always hated the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, it is consistent with his character; for he is a liar and the father of lies.” “

But who created the devil? Didn’t God create everything? And if so why would he create the devil?

If you were God and were totally against evil, would you have purposefully created the epitome of evil?

I have trouble making sense of that, don’t you?


59 posted on 05/02/2022 11:10:43 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48

Why dost thou strive against thy Maker?
https://biblehub.com/romans/9-20.htm


60 posted on 05/02/2022 11:12:46 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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