Posted on 04/26/2022 1:47:52 PM PDT by marshmallow
It not a silly question, and you answered it with your
reference to having Putin in Washington, D. C. and or
Austin.
I advocated for our nation to hold summits with Russia,
but Obama was so busy being a bad ass, and the Democrats
had made it impossible for Trump to do it, that we
wound up here instead of growing closer.
I don’t want to be at war with Russia. I don’t want
Russia rolling over Europe, or attacking the U. S.
either, but as he forces escalation and infers he is
willing to use nukes, it’s not getting better at all.
He clearly hasn’t fulfilled his objectives, so I expect
to see him move forward until he has.
The Ukraine wasn’t a model republic before the current
leader was in power. It’s still as it was for all
intents and purposes.
Putin wants a free hand in the region, and if he
doesn’t get it, he’s going to get worse and worse.
Normal folks don’t threaten with nukes.
This guy is not someone you want to support. Go ahead
if you like, but this guy is not who you see him to be.
“The shrill noise the eastern Euro-weasel makes when its foot gets caught in a trap.”
You don’t like Europe in general; or just Poland and Bulgaria in particular?
You guys are going to be sorry you chose to go in this
direction. Russia has it’s won network of global
manipulators. You have chosen to toss your allegiance
to them. In time you will grow up.
“Follow the terms and conditions of the contract? Are you speaking of the contract where the Russians had cash and gold on deposit in western banks and we seized it?”
That has nothing to do with Bulgaria buying gas from Russia and paying for it pursuant to the terms of the contract, which it did. It seems to me your gripe would be with whomever is blocking the transaction.
And, what is this DC/neocon crap you toss out like confetti? If you have a bitch with DC or neocons, take it up with them. They’ll ignore you, of course; just like they ignore everyone else on any matter whatsoever.
Good grief. You resort to hyperbole because you have no facts on your side.
Russia did NOT give away gas for free, and you know it (but it’s the talking point you’ve embraced so you will sink or swim with it). It SOLD the gas to Bulgaria, and Bulgaria PAID for it; the transaction is being blocked by sanctions imposed by a third-party (or, in the case of the contract, a non-party).
I don’t think most people realize how badly these western governments destroyed public confidence in our financial systems when they engaged in those outrageous crackdowns on January 6th protestors, Canadian trucker convoys, etc.
Bulgaria didn’t pay. Go to Burger King and get a whopper. Swipe your card. It says “declined” because of some fraud alert at your bank.
BK doesn’t get the money, you don’t get the whopper. So BK says “I guess you’ll have to pay cash”. It’s exactly like that. Hope that clarifies it a bit.
Either way, I’m not in Bulgaria, so I can just watch and shake my head at idiots who annoy think you can make war with someone and still trade with them.
Exactly. If we would allow a third party escrow situation, we would just go ahead and allow direct normal payments.
“I don’t think most people realize how badly these western governments destroyed public confidence in our financial systems when they engaged in those outrageous crackdowns on January 6th protestors, Canadian trucker convoys, etc.”
I don’t disagree with you there.
“Either way, I’m not in Bulgaria, so I can just watch and shake my head at idiots who annoy think you can make war with someone and still trade with them.”
You are ignorant of history, because belligerents have traded with each other for millennia. Maybe not on the scale they did prior to hostilities, but continue to trade they did.
“The Ukraine wasn’t a model republic before the current
leader was in power.”
It’s a nazi dominated nation that has bribed half of DC.
It is a silly question, this is a willful error on our part and we created this war. I would prefer Russia and the US be on friendly terms. But that cannot happen while we are intent on absolute global domination.
You are part of the problem.
It us basically a bullshit. Between Europe and Russia the former is unreliable. I don’t remember Russia cutting the flow over Iraq, Libya or Yugoslavia.You are basically repeating the media mantras without thinking.
“Bulgaria didn’t pay.”
Bulgaria paid in the currency set forth in the contract. If it is being held up, that is not Bulgaria’s doing.
I have no loyalty to Russia. But Russia isn’t my enemy. I cannot think of a thing Russia has done to harm me as an American since they stopped being the USSR...DC and the Davos people are the enemy, and they relentlessly attack me.
You are being very foolish to support DC and NATO and the EU. Supporting Uke nazis is evil.
Today the idiots won’t have gas, in five months they won’t have food.
“Your proposed solution isn’t feasible.”
Lots of things aren’t feasible, but they are still done. Just because something is not easy or convenient (feasible), people have found ways to accomplish them nonetheless.
Of course not, paying money on the frozen account in currency the other side can’t use equals non-payment.
“that would be to make payment as specified in the contract, in the currency set forth in the contract, but delivered to a neutral third party to be held in escrow.”
How do you make that kind of arrangement when western banks are impounding 650 billion of their cash and gold? The better solution is for Bulgaria to stop being hostile and supplying weapons to the Ukes.
There may be some odd examples here and there. But it’s childish to be hostile to a nation, and expect them to bend over backwards to help you avoid the sanctions your group is putting on them.
Trade with someone you are at war with is dicey at best...and rarely done.
Why don’t you offer to be the third-party intermediary? Then you can come back here and tell us all how feasible it was. :-)
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