Posted on 04/23/2022 3:08:40 AM PDT by tlozo
In a corner of the third Jewish cemetery in Odessa, among the overgrowth and tombs that no one visits anymore, there is a monument that the present has recovered from oblivion. It is an amphitheater made up of large stone blocks and black granite columns. There are steles with 305 names in Hebrew. They are the identified victims of the 1905 pogrom against the city’s Jews. That episode of ethnic persecution also triggered the creation of the Jewish self-defense groups of Odessa, the largest armed organization of the Jewish people on Ukrainian soil. More than a century later, the members of this community are taking up arms again against Russian imperialism.
Each piece of this memorial has a number painted in red; they are the markings that helped reconstruct it. The memorial was originally located at the second Jewish cemetery in Odessa, which was closed in 1974 by the Soviet authorities. It stands again, ignored even by the descendants of the dead who are honored there. But the spirit of survival has passed on to the new generations, says Roman Shvarcman, 85, who is the vice-president of the Ukraine Holocaust Survivors Association. “Russia says it wants denazify Ukraine. Have you seen many Nazis in Ukraine?” asks Shvarcman rhetorically. “Not me, and believe me I know what a Nazi is: I grew up in the Berschad [central Ukraine] ghetto and came out alive, that’s why I know it’s the Russians who are now acting like the Germans 80 years ago.”
Every day at 8pm, Gennadiy Raskin dons a military uniform, slings his rifle over his shoulder and goes out to patrol the city of his parents, grandparents and great-grandparents. He proudly explains that both his grandfathers fought against Nazi Germany in the Red Army, and at home they keep a photograph of one of them in a tank in Berlin after the fall of the German capital. Raskin is Jewish, but that, he says, means nothing when he’s on duty with his four fellow patrolmen. Only one of them, Aleksandr, has a Jewish father; the others have no ties to Judaism.
They form a surveillance unit of the Territorial Defense Forces, a paramilitary arm of the Ukrainian army made up of civilian volunteers. They go through the old quarters of the center of Odessa during the curfew, from 9pm to 7am. Raskin, like Shvarcman, cannot believe how the Kremlin’s rhetoric has permeated left-wing European political parties: “To say that Ukraine is led by Nazis is stupid. The president [Volodymyr Zelenskiy] himself is Jewish. In our country there is no problem between nationalities.”
Raskin is 40 years old and a coroner by trade, currently holding a high rank in the structure of the Odessa Territorial Defense Forces. He is respected as a figure of authority by his colleagues and by the police. He is familiar with the legacy of the Jewish self-defense forces during the pogroms of more than a century ago, because the armed reaction of his people against recurring aggression has become something of a legend in the city.
It was here that the strongest self-defense groups in Ukraine against pogroms were organized in the late 19th century. The proletarian revolution of October 1905 led to nationalist violence against the Jewish population. The death count, which according to some estimates may be as high as 1,000, could have reached an even higher number if it had not been for the self-organized defense. This was the conclusion of the American historian Robert Weinberg in the most comprehensive book on this episode, The Revolution of 1905 in Odessa.
"It’s the Russians who are now acting like the Germans 80 years ago" - Roman Shvarcman, 85, who is the vice-president of the Ukraine Holocaust Survivors Association
The aggression against the Jewish population was the product of a combination of two factors, according to Weinberg’s study: on the one hand, the workers’ uprising that demanded reforms from Tsar Nicholas II also included radicals motivated by stereotypes about the supposed Jewish control over the economy. On the other hand, and more importantly, Russian nationalism and the authorities channeled that popular anger against their community.
“The pogrom began on October 19 [1905], hundreds of Russians gathered in various parts of the city in patriotic marches to show their loyalty to the tsar, with the approval of the local authorities,” Weinberg writes. The mood among the revolutionaries and the supporters of the government had been heated since the previous days. Plainclothes policemen distributed bottles of vodka, money and pistols among the protesters. During the journey from the port to the center of the city, the national anthem and also religious hymns were sung; according to various documents, slogans such as ‘down with the Jews’ and ‘the Jews need a beating’ began to be chanted. Weinberg’s account of the Jewish paramilitary organization, and its coalition with Bolshevik and student groups, partially evokes the current civilian militarization in Ukraine: “The Jewish National Self-Defense Committee distributed leaflets threatening non-Jews with reprisals in the event of a pogrom. […] Many Jews living in Odessa followed the Committee’s advice and armed themselves with guns, knives, sticks, whips, as well as sulfuric acid.”
Rabbi Abraham Wolff believes that this will to prevail against so many enemies is what has kept the Odessa Jewish community alive. The main Black Sea port, founded by the Russian Empress Catherine II, had Greeks and Jews as the main entrepreneurial groups in maritime trade. Despite the pogroms and especially despite the Holocaust —which killed 1.5 million Jews in Ukraine, 90% of the total—, their community in Odessa today numbers about 35,000 members. According to Wolff, some 15,000 have fled the war to the West or to Israel, and 15% are involved in volunteer work.
Raskin estimates that 300 Odessa Jews have enlisted in the Territorial Defense Forces. He considers that the current context is very different because Russian aggression is not against his people: it is against Ukraine as a whole. He does believe that, as at other times in history, his relatives are having to flee again – his wife and three children are in Hungary. But the war, he admits, has also divided the Jews themselves: Of the many friends he has in Russia, he can only talk to one or two. “They are under the influence of propaganda, and despite the fact that they have relatives in Ukraine who tell them what they are going through, they do not believe it.”
Schvarcman highlights that the identity component does not play any role today because the Jewish community is fully integrated into Ukrainian society, unlike at the time of the pogroms: “The mentality of the Jews at that time was different, they lived separately from the rest of the population.” Schvarcman above all provides arguments to refute the arguments of the Russian leader, Vladimir Putin, who claims Ukraine is a nest of Nazis. He criticizes the fact that despite the role of the Russian state in encouraging the pogroms, the memorial at the third Jewish cemetery did not receive any Russian money for restoration work, and he adds that “under the Soviet Union there was a palpable anti-Semitism.”
“Now we have synagogues that we could not open then. And in independent Ukraine, we can talk about the Holocaust, explain what happened without censorship. This is my response to Putin.”
But But NAZI!
Desert Rhino will be upset to learn of this!
We understand the need to claim that Nazis in Ukraine only exist in Putin’s imagination. But the problem with that is that the Western Media had many stories on Ukrainian Nazis BEFORE the war started. Obviously they’re no longer permitted to discuss the issue at this point.
“We understand the need to claim that Nazis in Ukraine only exist in Putin’s imagination. But the problem with that is that the Western Media had many stories on Ukrainian Nazis BEFORE the war started. Obviously they’re no longer permitted to discuss the issue at this point.”
Don’t you think it’s more likely that the stories years ago were true or generally true with some exaggeration (because the leftist/MSM media loves to find Nazis everywhere) but that the number of Nazis was actually small compared to the size of the population? A nation that is swayed by Nazis does not elect a Jewish President nor does it have as many Jewish and Israeli supporters as Ukraine does. This “Ukraine=Nazis” canard is an obvious fiction. Again, are their Nazis there? Yes, but Slavic Nazis doesn’t even make sense so they were always LARPers from the start.
Russia literally has more self-identified Nazis than Ukraine does. They have an openly Nazi party: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_National_Unity Look at the logo on that page. Is Putin hunting down their members? Is Putin going to denazify Russia?
When stupid, provincial Westerners begin to understand shy there is a growing “Nazi” movement in Mongolia, then they’ll begin to realize things are not what they were told by the Western media in Ukraine! https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2013/07/a-mongolian-neo-nazi-environmentalist-walks-into-a-lingerie-store-in-ulan-bator/100547/
Oh, you must be referring to the group that was BANNED under Putin. Ok, thanks for showing the difference between how Putin handles Nazis and how Ukraine handles them!
“At the peak of its popularity in 1999, RNU was estimated to have 20,000 - 25,000 active members all over Russia by state officials.
The group was banned in Moscow in 1999[11] and Barkashov lost the control of the group by 2000 after which the group was defunct.”
Every country has their Nazis. The principal difference is that in Ukraine they are running the country.
Great historical reference piece.
As a number on FR have probably read of late, I have highlighted extensive exposure, official and non-official in Russia and Ukraine. A little longer and I would have spent 10 years over there. As such, I have many friends in both countries from all walks of life.
Russia is structurally a near fascist, or fascist state, by design and in practice.
As well, while both countries are very corrupt (Ukraine largely do to FSB DCM proliferation), since 2012 when UA government forced UA’s exit from the CIS, of the two nations Ukraine is by far the
most free and anti-socialist.
It is also by far the most religiously free, and holds “freedom of speech” as a fundamental centerpiece of it’s current legal system.
Both of these freedoms have been forceably eliminated in Russian controlled portions of Eastern UA.
Dove tailing with this article, I will again re-post additional supporting links.
There has been a much greater Nazi problem in Ukraine than most know about, but it isn’t UA Nazi’s, it is actual Russian Nazi’s. Some of those involved have been bold enough to go on national televised programs in Russia as will be found below -
https://informnapalm.org/en/russian-neo-nazis-in-the-ranks-of-wagner-pmc/
https://bitterwinter.org/nazism-in-ukraine-7-russian-propaganda/
https://bitterwinter.org/nazism-in-ukraine-6-pro-russian-nazi-fighters/
Whatever you do, don’t scroll down and look at these pics
https://newslanc.com/tsukerman-russian-nazi-volunteers-in-donbas/
Russian Communist/Nazi alliance fighting in Donbas to take Eastern Ukraine for Russia —
Communist and NAZI’s supported and fighting together
https://www.outono.net/elentir/2022/03/01/the-alliance-of-pro-russian-communists-and-nazis-fighting-against-ukraine-in-donbas/
SENT FROM RUSSIA —
https://khpg.org/en/1608809502
https://khpg.org/en/1445287320
Russian 8th Army in Ukraine —
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_separatist_forces_in_Donbas
Poor saps, as happened in Syria, Georgia, and even Libya, Putin won’t allow the world to know who they were, or their families to be compensated, as it would tip the world off that Putin and his FSB have been funding, training, and using actual RUSSIAN neo-NAZI’s to destabilize Ukraine since at least 2004/2005, and much more since 2012.
Their deaths would reveal how Moscow has literally been training and supporting neo-NAZI’s, and not just in Eastern Ukraine —
*******
Truth be told, there is a lot more, and the following is only a fraction —
I have personally spent time proximal to метро Комсамольская (Metro Station Commsamolskaya, North Central Moscow), and been to two of it’s modern global socialist news/newspaper offices. (And yes, the rumors of 20th Century, all male bathhouses were/are correct. The Young Communist is also associated with Ria Novosti (KGB/FSB), downtown Moscow.
Komsamol — was and is the Young Communist organization HQ’d in Moscow, really consisted of ages 13 up to 29 years olds, with the parent organization as Communist Party of Soviet Union, but still funded by Communist Internationale, and multiple socialist parties within current government (including “Novorossiya”).
Interestingly, “Novorossiya” is a coalition party which also consists of these —
https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/mappingmilitants/profiles/russian-imperial-movement
Small elements of an associated team once provided significant information to CISAC/Stanford (as Stanford study was already well along), and SIGACT details of neo-NAZI research of financial ties and attacks (INCLUDING to very recent, and on foreign soil, including Ukraine, the Balkans, Germany, Spain, France, and half dozen countries in Latin America, and Mexico/Canada/US), as well as it’s DIRECT historical financing and training ties to NKVD/KGB/FSB and GRU/Spetsnaz, (including historical to current). Yes, many if these have direct ties to Putin’s past and current FSB, GRU, and NGO’s (some of which are currently operational and involved organizationally in trafficking in Mexico, Nicaragua, Guatamala, El Salvador, Panama, Peru, Venezuela, etc...
It has been estimated by several colleagues of mine, as well as some folks over at Ria Novosti (before we were closed out), there may well be significantly more than half a million neo-Nazi”s in and from Russia.
So there is an “enemies foreign and domestic” conspiracy to not only destabilize UA, but the US itself.
Russian neo-NAZI proxy organizations may be small to very large, and involved in multiple government parties and “mega-billionaire oligarchs -
- RIM (including “Partizan”//”Guerilla”)
- Imperial Legion
- DPNI
- ROD
- United Russia Party
- Russian Ethno Political Association
(REPA)
- RGS
- Moscow Defense League
- New Force
- Orthodox Nationalist
- NSI - Opposition Coordination Counsel
neo-Nazi National Socialist Initiative (NSI)
- National Democratic Party of Russia (NDP)
- Russian All-National Union (large RONS umbrella)
- REPA and other subordinates
- Slavic Force (SS)
- Russian National Front
- Rodina
- The Last Crusade
All associated with, or under the formal umbrella political party called *Novorossiya*, but not exclusive.
Subsequently, while well published, these groups have mostly “escaped” Russian law enforcement and FSB scrutiny, and even provided known cover -
SOP’s are also aligned with longstanding and KNOWN FSB political an national “Destabilization by Corruptive Means” of foreign governments. Some teams used to refer to as part of larger Asymmetric Political Destabilization.
Statements of some of these Russian Neo-NAZI organizations, literally mirror FSB FOREIGN DESTABILIZATION
“Vorobyev has stated that the greatest threat to the Russian nation is “the stability of anti-Russian regimes on all the territory inhabited by the Russian ethnos.” In its intervention in Ukraine, RIM saw an opportunity to destabilize the Kiev government and further its objective of protecting ethnic Russians.”
“In March 2015, the group attended the International Russian Conservative Forum, a conference for white supremacists held in St. Petersburg and organized by Rodina, a far-right Russian political party.
[*Not any part of this info was the focus, but we were able to tie funding to multiple Kremlin oligarch accounts, including Sberbank among others, as well as a few foreign transactions.]
Other attendees included U.S. white supremacists, such as Jared Taylor, who serves as the editor of the U.S. white supremacist publication American Renaissance.
Also in attendance were European extreme-right organizations, including
- Golden Dawn (Greece),
- National Democratic Party (Germany)
- Forza Nuova (Italy).
In September 2015, RIM leader Vorobyev traveled to Sweden to meet with the Nordic Resistance Movement (NRM), a neo-Nazi group active across Scandinavian countries and spoke at the NRM’s “Nordic Days” event.
In June 2015, RIM joined Rodina in co-founding the World National Conservative Movement (WNCM). A network of extreme-right groups from around the world, WNCM opposes pluralism, tolerance, and other liberal values, according to its manifesto.
The network promotes the use of violence in service of its ideology. RIM invited over 50 extreme-right, white supremacist, and neo-Nazi groups from 28 countries to join WNCM, including the
National Democratic Party (Germany)
Nordic Resistance Movement (Sweden)
American Freedom Party (United States), among others. A full list of WNCM-affiliated organizations can be seen under “Relations with other groups” in this profile. RIM leaders intended the WNCM network to facilitate the sharing of tactical skills across peer organizations and promote their own paramilitary training program.”
Some of these have direct ties to multiple pre and post WWII NAZI families from Germany (East Germany), Russia, and Argentina/Chile -
Adolf Putin has no concern for the truth.
The Putin cult has zero credibility. Once we get a real President Putin’s days will be numbered.
I agree Ras Putin is a liar. I hope Ukraine
gives him a bloody nose. With all the weapons
being sent to Ukraine maybe they can wear down
the Russians. We lost 50 thousand in Vietnam
before we got out and we had a much bigger population
and economy that the former USSR.
This war is costing Russia and they are not
stupid people. They left Afghanistan and if the
cost of war is too high I think RAs Putin will
throw in the towel again
I want peace there...but also now justice is required.
Great insight. Thanks.
“Every country has their Nazis. The principal difference is that in Ukraine they are running the country.”
So Zelensky, a Jew, is actually a Nazi? Seriously, why is it that you Putinistas never think things through?
Is cokehead running the country? He is an actor installed specifically to push this “non-Nazi” narrative.
And there are still more Nazis in Russia than in Ukraine.
“Is cokehead running the country? He is an actor installed specifically to push this “non-Nazi” narrative.”
The twilight world you live in must be a frightening place filled with goblins and Jews who are Nazis.
Don’t be silly. Nazis are only 2% in Ukraine, about 7-9% are their sympathizers. The problem is that they are untouchables, they have guns and control the media. The president fears them and carries their water even though his election promises were to end all of this. Now he has Putin doing his job.
“And there are still more Nazis in Russia than in Ukraine.”
How many Russian Nazi groups are incorporated into the Russian military. Answer: ZERO.
Please try again.
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