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Transgender Athletes Could ‘Compete Against Each Other’: Australian Swimming Icon Dawn Fraser
Epoch Times ^ | 04/21/2022 | Nina Nguyen

Posted on 04/21/2022 9:43:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Swimming legend Dawn Fraser has dived into the transgender sporting debate, becoming Australia’s third high-profile female swimmer to speak up on what has turned into a controversial issue amid the 2022 federal election campaign.

Her comment comes after Australia’s most decorated Olympian Emma McKeon and Olympic gold medallist Emily Seebohm this week aired their concerns about the “unfair” advantages of transgender athletes if they are allowed to compete with female athletes.

Fraser, who is a four-time Olympic gold medalist, told the Daily Telegraph on Thursday: “I don’t think it’s fair to have transgender men competing against women.”

“Why don’t transgender people compete against each other,” she asked. “That would solve all the problems?”

On the same day, McKeon, a four-time world record holder and winner of 11 Olympic medals revealed she “personally wouldn’t want to be racing against someone who is biologically a male.”

“It’s not a new thing, but it’s new in the fact that sports will, [and] swimming, have to deal with it. Individual sports are going to have to work out how to handle it.”

But transgender footballer Hannah Mouncey, who was barred from playing AFLW for not meeting the requirements for trans athletes, argued that McKeon “is just dealing with the incorrect information she has been given.”

“I used to be able to bench press 150 kilograms but that went down to 50 kilograms within 12 months, that’s the effect of the loss of testosterone,” Mouncey added.

However, former Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack on Thursday said he believed the debate should be about “fairness” and “biology.”

“For those people putting poisoned pen to paper, [what] if your slightly-built late-teenage daughter is lining up playing sport against some ex-butch bloke who is getting an advantage because they now identify as a woman?” he said.

“If you went out into the homes and sports venues right around Australia there would be many more people in Katherine Deves and Emma McKeon’s corner than the other side.”

Meanwhile, Australian Sports Commission CEO Kieran Perkins, who is also a dual Olympic swimming gold medallist, revealed the trans debate was “not the highest priority” on his organisation’s agenda. Instead, he noted that women’s safety and participation in sport, as well as their involvement in professional coaching and administration, are the issues the team is focusing on.

The current guidelines for trans athletes “allow for inclusion and fairness to be appropriately managed by sports,” he added.

In February, Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison backed the “Save Women’s Sport Bill” by Tasmanian Senator Claire Chandler, which would give women and girls the right to play single-sex sports by making it legal to ask a male competitor not to play in the female category.

Chandler, a women’s sports advocacy, said it is “unacceptable” that the current Commonwealth laws threaten sports clubs and associations with legal action if they exclude males from women’s sports.

“I support it, I think it is a terrific bill and I’ve given her great encouragement,” Morrison told reporters. “Claire is a champion for women’s sports and I think she has been right to raise these issues in the way that she has.”



TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dawnfraser; sports; transathletes; transgender

1 posted on 04/21/2022 9:43:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s much better than what’s going on now.


2 posted on 04/21/2022 9:57:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Curious if the Special Olympians are disgusted.


3 posted on 04/21/2022 9:57:26 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SeekAndFind

too bad ladies- many of you all supported feminism and trashed on men for decades— you went on and on about how women are equal to men- even though you knew you weren’t- (in most cases)- You all kept telling the world how pathetic and useless men were- how strong women were- how you all didn’t need men blah blah blah- now it’s circled back and bit ya

IF however you are women who didn’t support feminism- then I’m sorry- but you have only feminists to blame now for this nonsense- and you all should be speaking out forcefully against it because this is the end results- insanity


4 posted on 04/21/2022 10:02:08 PM PDT by Bob434 (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They need to compete in “open” events.

No one disallowed.

All comers welcome.

Show us your stuff [not your junk].


5 posted on 04/21/2022 10:04:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, I heartily agree that mental hospitals should have transgender vs. transgender sporting events.


6 posted on 04/21/2022 10:05:29 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Paladin2

“No one disallowed.”

I have worked in athletics in many different levels and I have observed the problem of gender competition first hand. And there is one particular problem I have noticed: Can anyone name me a sport females may not compete against males in? I did not say can not, I said may not. Men may not compete in many women’s sports. Softball, gymnastics, field hockey, and even lacrosse because of the no contact rule attached to the women’s rules. But if the consideration of winning is taken out of the competitive parts of the sports, there is no reason men may not compete with the women.

So I think you’re right. Drop the physical difference theory and let the sports by coed. And if someone1 thinks it is not proper, tell that to the women wrestlers in high school and other contact sports they take the chance of being hurt in besides embarrassed. It was their choice.

wy69


7 posted on 04/21/2022 10:22:09 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: Paladin2

“No one disallowed.”

I have worked in athletics in many different levels and I have observed the problem of gender competition first hand. And there is one particular problem I have noticed: Can anyone name me a sport females may not compete against males in? I did not say can not, I said may not. Men may not compete in many women’s sports. Softball, gymnastics, field hockey, and even lacrosse because of the no contact rule attached to the women’s rules. But if the consideration of winning is taken out of the competitive parts of the sports, there is no reason men may not compete with the women.

So I think you’re right. Drop the physical difference theory and let the sports by coed. And if someone1 thinks it is not proper, tell that to the women wrestlers in high school and other contact sports they take the chance of being hurt in besides embarrassed. It was their choice.

wy69


8 posted on 04/21/2022 10:22:09 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: SeekAndFind
Yeah, it was such a simple er a complex idea. No
wonder it too so long to come up with it.

Really good job.

Same with the school bathroom issue.

A transgender bathroom...

Duh!

9 posted on 04/21/2022 10:32:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: SeekAndFind

In other words, a separate men’s league.


10 posted on 04/21/2022 10:48:38 PM PDT by fwdude (Every time I see someone voluntarily masked in public, I know I'm looking at a vaccinated person.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Women have been invading, or shutting down, male spaces ever since the 1970s. How many traditional men's clubs still exist? Not to mention the military, police, fire, sanitation, and construction -- standards have been lowered in all of them to accommodate women.

And so I find it amusing that men (i.e., trannies) are returning the favor and invading women's spaces.

11 posted on 04/21/2022 10:52:29 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: nickcarraway

“That’s much better than what’s going on now.”

Not so much. We will end up having to transgender sports, which normalizes a deviant mental disease.


12 posted on 04/21/2022 11:22:09 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: SeekAndFind

Drag races.


13 posted on 04/21/2022 11:31:19 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not our problem to solve. Keep the liars, cheats, and thieves out of women’s sports.


14 posted on 04/22/2022 3:26:40 AM PDT by jimfree (PD)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yep, 3 categories - Men, Women, and Whatevers.


15 posted on 04/22/2022 5:25:20 AM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our scho nice Nice ols to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: SeekAndFind

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16 posted on 04/22/2022 6:22:35 AM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can they fill 8 lanes in the pool?

IF so-—That brings up an even larger problem, IMO.


17 posted on 04/22/2022 7:40:31 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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