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Disney self-government in peril after Florida House vote
The Associated Press ^ | April 21, 2022 | By ANTHONY IZAGUIRRE

Posted on 04/21/2022 11:18:12 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: livius

I’ve never been a Disney fan and to this day still consider them carnival people.

“Disney originally wanted to build his new park near the beach, a natural magnet for tourists. Disney’s search for a large tract of undeveloped beachfront led him to the Florida Panhandle.

In 1959, if you wanted to buy land near Northwest Florida’s white sand beaches, there was only one man to see: Ed Ball, CEO of The St. Joe Paper Company.
Ed BallBall was the brother-in-law of Alfred I. DuPont, the black sheep of the DuPont family, who had been banished to Florida after divorcing his first wife and marrying his second cousin.

Ball was a notoriously tough businessman, and he would end each day with a whiskey and a toast: “Confusion to the enemy!”

When DuPont died in 1935, Ball took control of the family business and spent the next 45 years acquiring land in Florida. Eventually Ball controlled more than a million acres, most of it concentrated in the Florida Panhandle.

As the story goes, Disney had his sights set on a Florida beachfront location for his new park, so he dispatched lawyers, lobbyists and friends to negotiate a land purchase from Ball, but Ball rebuffed every approach.

Finally in March 1959, in a last ditch effort, Disney made an appointment to meet Ball at his office. He was determined to buy a piece of beachfront property near Panama City Beach, Florida.

Disney arrived at the St. Joe Paper Company offices promptly at 9 am. The office was quiet as a tomb; the only sound was the tick-tock of a grandfather clock in the corner of the reception area. Down the hall he could see the door to every office was closed.

Irene Walsh, Mr. Ball’s secretary, took Disney’s coat and asked him to have a seat. Mr. Ball was busy, she said, and he would see Disney when he could.

As the day passed, every hour, on the hour, Ms. Walsh would take printout from the company’s stock ticker to Mr. Ball’s office. And each time she returned she brought Disney the same message: “He’s still busy.”

At noon, Ms. Walsh told Disney: “Mr. Ball asked me to go out and get you lunch.”

The afternoon passed in utter quiet, broken only by the tick-tock of the clock and Ms. Walsh’s hourly treks to Ball’s office.

Finally, at 4 pm, after she had taken the day’s closing stock prices to Mr. Ball’s office, Ms. Walsh returned with a note for Disney. The crumpled piece of paper had been folded eight times.

Disney opened the note: “Mr. Disney, I’m not going to see you today – or any day. I don’t do business with carnival people.”

Source: http://thewidewideworld.com/blog/carnival-people/


41 posted on 04/21/2022 11:52:09 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Little Ray

“Disney probably did a better job with these things than the adjoining counties.”

Okay, so say the government takes over and does a worse job. Who is affected? Disney. What is their recourse?

Well, I suppose they could close the park.


42 posted on 04/21/2022 11:52:55 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Jonty30

“But those days are now gone, with Disney going hostile on the family“

They’ve been attacking the fam since 1968 or so

No. Those days are now gone, with DeSantis in the governor’s seat.

People talk about Cruz obliterating some leftist or Jim Jordan really speaking out but they’re all talk.

DeSantis gets it done.


43 posted on 04/21/2022 11:58:05 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Jonty30

Disney wasn’t a perverted political entity back then.

They should never have been granted this governing power in the first place. They are not government, they are a business. And they have come to believe they are entitled to this power without responsibility, they are certainly not.


44 posted on 04/21/2022 11:58:37 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: catnipman

Yeah. I was wasting time saying something that did not even need to be said. Sorry about that. I’m getting punch drunk from all the outed deep staters in the R party.


45 posted on 04/21/2022 12:00:47 PM PDT by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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Walt built Disney World with more than a little help from the CIA. To think that the relationship started and ended there is unrealistic. Their current extreme globohomo push confirms this. Desantis is actually fighting the deep state and winning.


46 posted on 04/21/2022 12:02:19 PM PDT by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: cuban leaf

He wants this gone, he’s going to sign it.


47 posted on 04/21/2022 12:02:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Disney can’t even govern their demons, so forget governing itself at all.


48 posted on 04/21/2022 12:03:31 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: proust
Luv this Guv
49 posted on 04/21/2022 12:04:23 PM PDT by bella1 (DeSantis 2024)
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To: Antoninus

Yeah that’s a good point the copyright should’ve expired on that mouse back in the 20s


50 posted on 04/21/2022 12:04:34 PM PDT by rottweiller_inc (inter canem et lupum)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Queers and dykes hardest hit


51 posted on 04/21/2022 12:06:17 PM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; JulieRNR21; Travis McGee; AAABEST; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; ...
I apologize for the large number of pings lately. Florida's got a lot of things going on at present. Good things.

Florida Freeper

I'm compiling a list of FReepers interested in Florida-related topics.
If you want to be added, please FReepMail me.

52 posted on 04/21/2022 12:08:58 PM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

i wonder if universal studios florida are watchingthis?


53 posted on 04/21/2022 12:09:07 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m old enough to remember when the left was in favor of eliminating favored tax status for multi-million dollar corporations.


54 posted on 04/21/2022 12:13:18 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sniff sniff smells like ASS.Press💩


55 posted on 04/21/2022 12:13:37 PM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
They should never have been granted this governing power in the first place. They are not government, they are a business. And they have come to believe they are entitled to this power without responsibility, they are certainly not.

You know, that raises a very interesting point. Like an Indian reservation or the Vatican wrt Italy, it's to some degree an autonomous independent carve out that's less "Florida" than say, downtown Gainesville, so they should have LESS opinion about Florida policies and politics than if they didn't have this special deal.

56 posted on 04/21/2022 12:13:57 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: proust
Walt built Disney World with more than a little help from the CIA.

Wait, what? How would the CIA be helpful building an amusement park? Money? Dirt on pols they needed to leverage to get what they wanted?

57 posted on 04/21/2022 12:15:46 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Corporations are considered people under the law.

Make them be treated as people, or allow people to be treated as corporations.


58 posted on 04/21/2022 12:19:57 PM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

As a long time Floridian I am so OK with this!


59 posted on 04/21/2022 12:20:42 PM PDT by Guenevere (‘Let us fight as if it all depended on us, but let us look up and know it all depends upon Him’)
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To: Still Thinking

Yep. To go down that rabbit hole, search on

Walt Disney Bill Donovan Paul Helliwell


60 posted on 04/21/2022 12:21:39 PM PDT by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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