Posted on 04/21/2022 11:01:51 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
Hey Tass....... Moscow is burning.
Moscow is now on fire........ that is the future
I agree.
Well, a couple of points support that, the breakaway Oblasts are a very large part of the Industrial, Manufacturing, Mining Industries in Ukraine, and the Workers (many Russian Speaking) are skilled and oriented to heavy industry, mining, and infrastructure.
However, Ukraine has been shelling said industries and workers for about eight years, so much damage has been done.
Russia will have to rebuild all of that alone.
Would they opt to protect Azovastal Steel now, or write it off for future reconstruction?
I frankly, don't know the answer.
I did not think he was rational enough to do this. Had he attacked the Ukies could have recalled for all the image of the grain elevator at Stalingrad. A very powerful memory in all of what used to be the Soviet Union. A rallying point, like the Alamo for Texicans.
Right. They will have about 20 more days left.
Unless they got a hell of a lot of food and water.
There were a hell of a lot of Japanese entombed within caves in the South Pacific Islands by our boys during WW2.
A few days ago, there was a report that Shoigu had had a massive heart attack and was in the hospital, sidelined. Has the Defense Minister actually been seen since then?
Tass has quoted Shoigu a couple of times since said date, however Tass is a wire service that also references previous interviews for their own updates without explanation.
I would be in favor of giving Putin a participation award (so that he can "save face") - and then two bullets just behind the ear.
Regards,
Well, it would be a smart move if the whole Ukrainian army were penned up in there, but they are not.
So this is just tying down Russian troops who will now be unable to do anything but siege that plant for the foreseeable future, while the Ukrainian forces are not likewise constrained.
Consider the Russian attempts to seal off Grozny…Granted, this is a smaller area being surrounded, and the Russians have probably learned a thing or two since way back then, but on that score, a lot of footage of Russian troops in Ukraine could be easily confused with footage from Chechnya…Hell, some of it probably IS footage from Chechnya, but the fact that large portions their military hasn’t evolved since the mid to late 90s is telling in a different way.
“they are going to put an airtight perimeter around it”
Doesn’t Azovstal have its own port? So they would have to blockade it in order to seal the perimeter.
And to blockade it they will need ships to be very close to shore. I’m foreseeing a repeat of the Moskva if they try that.
” on multiple layers separated by 3 feet of concrete under the plant”
3 meters, not 3 feet. That’s why bombs and artillery are useless. Russia will be forced to escalate to chemical weapons if they really want to take the plant.
Hogwash. Putin himself made a veiled threat to use chemical weapons on the plant to clear it, that’s not “treating them with respect”.
The should just dump piles of old tires around and set them on fire.
It’s surrounded on land, just like Paulus at Stalingrad. There’s no escape. And no Uke access to the Sea of Azov anyway. It’s a Russian lake now.
Russian flag is now on the top of Mariupol Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZnBVR7tjNY
Да, нем нога.
Ukraine v Russia | Mariupol steelworks siege
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLTUrUIZLGg
Like the submarine pens at Lorient, not surrendered until May 1945.
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