Posted on 04/17/2022 9:04:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
The issue is that there is NOTHING to put in those containers to fill them up and ship them back to ASIA where they are needed to ship Asian exports.
Ever since China stopped taking OUR recycled empty PLASTIC bottles( #1 and #2 plastic) there is nothing to put in those containers to actually PAY to ship them back to China. So, there is a surplus of empty containers sitting around the USA.
That is why you could at one point in time a year or two ago you could buy an empty 40’ container for under $3000.
This also means that townships and cities all of the USA can not get rid of most empty plastic bottles. My town in NH can only get rid of clear #1 plastic. The colored plastic and the #2 (PVC) plastic has NO value at all. SO, stop buying all these plastic bottles filled with stuff. Unless your township is actually BURNING them like mine. My trash goes to Wheelabrator Technologies where they burn the trash and boil water, make steam and turn a turbine to create electricity.
It’s not really a container problem. It’s a “container not in the right place” problem.
Someone could start producing a bunch of them every day…and in a year there will be a glut if the supply chain mess straightens out.
We're not reversing anything, we're in big heap trouble.
There’s a YouTube shipping expert (about 3 months ago) who got onto the empty container chatter, and he said (for more than a year)...the freighters would dock on the west coast, and even when filled containers existed to go to Asia....the freighter company would bypass around half of them, and load a fair amount of empty containers.
His logic was that Chinese companies at the time had authority/control over the freighters, and had plenty of goods at the ports ready to go....so the empty cargo containers got dropped real quick at the China port....reloaded in a matter of hours, and put on the vessel for next trip to the US. He said for most of 2020 and 2021...this was the pattern, with some US goods being delayed (not just days/weeks but going into several months).
This is normal if they plan to renovate a store, or if they plan to close it.
That actually makes sense for the container shippers in Asia.
They need the empty containers in Shanghai. If you put something in them in LA, then it slows down their turn around time in Asia.
The problem is when that container gets shipped to KC, or St. Louis or Cleveland. There is nothing shipping out of those areas going back out of the country.
Ten years ago there was a company in Milford, NH that bought Eastern Hemlock logs. None of the local sawmills had any interest in that species of timber. There is not a market for that lumber in the USA. This company debarked them, stuck them in a container and shipped them to China. When I logged my property nine years ago, that is where the Hemlock went. The hardwood timber and the Eastern White Pine all went to sawmills in NH.
Yes...really irritates me that most fabric is Made in China...I actually took a bolt of some back to the store several years ago, because it smelled so bad (oil?)...that’s when I started paying attention.
The biggest reason Chine is the largest manufacturer of shipping containers is:
NO ONE wants to ship empty containers BACK TO CHINA.
Goods are only coming OUT of China-—OT going in.
We allowed UNIONS to drive up labor & benefit costs to an intolerable level & cheap China labor took over.
TRUMP was right-—rein in the unions & bring manufacturing back to the USA.
We are getting questionable parts from China, anyway, and ANYTHING ELECTRONIC is suspect for spyware having been inserted.
You can google in your area-—and find hundreds of shipping containers for rent or for sale...HUNDREDS.
I just noticed today that they have actually decided to rearrange at least half of their shelves. The rotated them all 90 degrees. It really doesn’t make any sense to me, frankly.
What it does seem to do, however, is remove two of their widest store-length aisles, the ones they use to stash price leader stuff in. I guess with inflation as it is, there really aren’t any ‘price leaders.’ :0)
Like they have control over us not making steel boxes. LOL
https://www.industryselect.com/blog/top-us-iron-and-steel-mills
But..l With the democrats in charge who knows how long they will “allow” the ores, natgas, and coal to be used.
Thank you for the link, and I will read in full shortly.
On a quick glance, they’re all in liberal states…
“What about the hundreds even thousands sitting in storage yards all across America?”
my first thought as well ... and it’s thousands, not hundreds ... they stack up because the U.S. doesn’t export as much as it imports and they’re not worth shipping back empty ... so i there’s any truth to this article, they’ll suddenly be worth something and worth shipping back empty ...
Walmart has some new floorplans they’re working out. Another reason to rotate shelves is for them to deep clean or replace some of the flooring while still remaining open.
Large corporations started in what were, conservative states. Believe me. Companies like Boeing and Us steel would leave blue states if it were affordable.
The US created container shipping and is now facing being hamstrung on trade because it doesn’t produce containers.
Just another irony of globalism.
Eventually it might become economically viable if the dirty lib states regulate them towards death.
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