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Photo claiming to show stricken Russian warship appears online
BBC ^ | April 17, 2022

Posted on 04/17/2022 5:31:24 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin

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To: BeauBo

[Sea state looks quite calm in that photo.

Daylight means that it was at least several hours after the 1 AM missile strikes.]


If so, and the photo is accurate, you’d think most of the crew would have gotten off the tub. Perhaps they thought they had it under control, and they were mistaken, or something happened in the interval to compound the ship’s predicament. Reverse serendipity aka Murphy’s Law.


21 posted on 04/17/2022 6:22:06 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: montag813

[Looks like it split apart because of rust. What a dump. The Russian navy is trash.]


That’s not rust. That’s stealthy rust-colored state of the art Russian naval camo.


22 posted on 04/17/2022 6:26:19 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

I don’t know if the photo s accurate.

I remember the Moskva as bristling with antennae and radomes, which I don’t see in the photo. Maybe they were blown off? I thought the ship was listing badly to the Port, or inverted before daylight.


23 posted on 04/17/2022 6:49:25 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

It was damaged before, right? What did it look like after taking damage in their war against Georgia?


24 posted on 04/17/2022 7:04:31 PM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere)
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To: outofsalt
There was a spider on the Moskva

Now it's gone...

25 posted on 04/17/2022 7:08:23 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Dr. Franklin

All old Soviet designs had this flaw. When they built the Kirov they started making their ships better with under armor VLS systems where everyone is going now.


26 posted on 04/17/2022 7:47:23 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: GBA

Since the war in Georgia, the Moskva spent about three years in dock getting repairs and upgrades.

There are a lot of pictures from recent months, that show it looking in good shape, with all kinds of antennae and radomes (that I don’t see in the purported picture.

I am not sure if that is the same ship in the picture, but a lot of that stuff might have been blown off in big blast.


27 posted on 04/17/2022 7:54:19 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Bobalu
Dear God! It’s a rusty scow!

Once again, the vaunted Russian Military is a lie. Were it not for the fact that they have nukes (and we'd have to seriously question the condition they're in now) they'd be nothing more than any other third-rate military around the world.

I'd put them right up there with the also vaunted Iraqi Republican Guard we heard so much about as being a well armed & well trained foe right before Desert Storm I in 1991 and we kicked their ass all the way back to Baghdad.

Clearly the Russian military isn't squat without the threat of nukes.

This rusty scow was one of the prides of the Russian Navy? ROFL!

I'm not advocating for war and I don't want our men & women put in harms way, I really don't, and if Russia keeps pushing this crap and think for a second they have a chance against our military, they're seriously delusional. They'd best be careful what they ask for.

28 posted on 04/17/2022 7:59:09 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Zhang Fei

Massive explosion before sinking? Wouldn’t most crew be taken off a disabled and being towed ship?


29 posted on 04/17/2022 8:03:25 PM PDT by bhl
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To: BeauBo
Right. Could be.

Are there any photos of what it looked like during/after that earlier time? Any of the photos from that war before it was repaired?

Just wondered if the photo you were examining was an older photo from that version’s damage or of the more recent Moskva’s damage.

No worries either way, now. “She’s dead, Jim.”

30 posted on 04/17/2022 8:16:10 PM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere)
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To: bhl

[Massive explosion before sinking? Wouldn’t most crew be taken off a disabled and being towed ship?]


If the ship remained afloat for hours, you’d think the crew got off. Especially with that kind of list. Then again, maybe the captain thought he could work miracles, and was afraid of the consequences to his career and/or person if he let the tub go to a watery grave. Tough break for the crew but, when you think about it, they had more of a chance than the average tank or BMP crew struck by an ATGM.


31 posted on 04/17/2022 8:24:15 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: GBA

Oh I see - I missed your earlier point.

This photo might be from an earlier conflict.

I think that is a very good possibility. The reports that I had been seeing earlier made it seem like the ship was listing badly to Port, or even inverted, long before daylight, from the recent strike.

Sorry, but I don’t have earlier photos to compare.


32 posted on 04/17/2022 8:25:21 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Dr. Franklin

Smoke is not billowing from the superstructure: It’s billowing from the stacks, indicating a massive fire below decks.

Not exactly what I’d expect from a missile impact, across the board.


33 posted on 04/17/2022 8:41:10 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: DarthVader
This was hit near where I expected it to be based upon the reports. It likely suffered a catastrophic explosion later while it was getting towed near the main armament.

It looks to me like the hit was very much in the center midship. My guess is that they hit the engine room or fuel stores, although I could be wrong.
34 posted on 04/17/2022 8:49:20 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Zhang Fei
Joni Mitchell’s rendition of Stormy Weather:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtJg9xilgPk


I am thinking more of this:
Jim Croce - Bad Bad Leroy Brown
35 posted on 04/17/2022 9:29:35 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: TheBattman

Who’s your fav CNN anchor?


36 posted on 04/17/2022 9:53:58 PM PDT by Az Joe (Biden is the enemy, not Putin.)
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To: Dr. Franklin

The Neptune missles would hit the center structure and CIC bridge area. She carries 16 large cursie missiles launched from tubes with 8 on each side. The ship is listing to port and 4 of the missiles tubes on the port side have been blown away. Likely one or as many as four of those large warheads exploded. There is video showing the large explosion on the port side. This was no fire that caused those missiles to detonate. There was a fire clrealy that swept through the ship after being hit.


37 posted on 04/17/2022 10:05:21 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Mat_Helm

It looks kinda like a tank that’s been hit with a round, those big fires that burn things out might only last 10-20 seconds, but absolutely wreck the structure.


38 posted on 04/17/2022 10:07:43 PM PDT by Houserino
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To: Dr. Franklin

The missiles hit near the funnels which ae just abaft the Vulcan Anti-Ship missile tubes. I would not get all that excited over a nearly 50 year old obsolete surface combatant getting sunk like this. I know this all too well and am not surprised. This could just as easily happen to American or NATO ships should they get involved.


39 posted on 04/17/2022 10:34:10 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: DarthVader

No no, of couse. The flagship of their navy isn’t a big loss.. LOL, didn’t you also yack about insider Trump-wins info?


40 posted on 04/17/2022 10:36:02 PM PDT by Houserino
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